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By BCSWowbagger (James Heaney)
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#400268
Se7enofMine wrote:
Legate_Damar wrote:No worries, it's perfectly fine. I'd rather find out about it this way than take it to a tournament and be totally embarassed! Although to be honest, I'm pretty sure I've seen Genesis Device being played the way I'm describing by several players, so it could be the case that a lot of players are misinformed as to how that card functions.
Oh I agree entirely. I had built a deck I thought worked well. Played a game with it against BCS and he tore it apart lol Mechnically it was so off. I felt like a dolt. So I hear ya.
It was, to be fair, a very clever deck, based entirely on very subtle misreadings of the rules. In a very slightly different universe, you'd have clobbered me.

1E is a messy ol' game.
 
By Se7enofMine (ChadC)
 - Delta Quadrant
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#400271
BCSWowbagger wrote:
Se7enofMine wrote:Oh I agree entirely. I had built a deck I thought worked well. Played a game with it against BCS and he tore it apart lol Mechnically it was so off. I felt like a dolt. So I hear ya.
It was, to be fair, a very clever deck, based entirely on very subtle misreadings of the rules. In a very slightly different universe, you'd have clobbered me.

1E is a messy ol' game.

Wow. I will take that as some very high praise. Thank you, James. Much appreciated.

That it is. I love it and its great but ugh ... sometimes my head hurts :P
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By PantsOfTheTalShiar (Jason Tang)
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#403342
Since Heaney had my Cardassian deck on his list, I should share my updated and streamlined version:

https://www.trekcc.org/1e/decklists/ind ... ckID=16758

Unfortunately we had a bye in our last tournament so this exact version doesn't meet the requirement of "has won two games in a tournament."
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By jadziadax8 (Maggie Geppert)
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The Traveler
2E North American Continental Semi-Finalist 2023
ibbles  Trek Masters Tribbles Champion 2023
#403350
That's great! I shall use this for Cardassian week.
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By jadziadax8 (Maggie Geppert)
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2E North American Continental Semi-Finalist 2023
ibbles  Trek Masters Tribbles Champion 2023
#413226
Anyone have a good Ferengi deck? I'm working on next week's Spotlight Series.
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First Edition Rules Master
By BCSWowbagger (James Heaney)
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#413291
jadziadax8 wrote:Anyone have a good Ferengi deck?
They're really unfriendly to beginners, because they are both really complicated and really bad. This one is one of the very few [Fer] decks that can even win games these days. (Hooooooopefully Unrelenting Lust changes that up a bit, but we haven't seen it in action yet.)

TNG Ferengi are simple, but have vast, unfixable skill gaps and can't effectively use Rules.

DS9 Ferengi are better (they can use Rules and their skill gaps aren't completely unfixable), but they rely on cross-quadrant travel and a Dominion treaty with the Dosi Trading Post, which is very newbie-unfriendly.
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By winterflames (Derek Marlar)
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#413319
jadziadax8 wrote:Anyone have a good Ferengi deck? I'm working on next week's Spotlight Series.
Good? No. Ferengi decks? Yes. They are terrible. But they are mine, so it couldnt be any other way.

An Achievement deck This one beat Ross once.
my really old tng ferengi deck this one sucked.
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By jadziadax8 (Maggie Geppert)
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2E North American Continental Semi-Finalist 2023
ibbles  Trek Masters Tribbles Champion 2023
#413455
This makes me sad.
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By Armus (Brian Sykes)
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#413457
jadziadax8 wrote:This makes me sad.
To be fair, the Ferengi are a) not the easiest to play and b) haven't gotten a ton of Design love. Hopefully the new 1st Rule card that just came out will do something, though they'll probably need more than that for anything besides the very occasional Ferengi Military Operations deck to make an appearance.
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By Boffo97 (Dave Hines)
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#413471
...or maybe there ARE good Ferengi decks for beginners... but do you expect to get them for FREE?! You expect... pfeh... charity?!

;)
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First Edition Rules Master
By BCSWowbagger (James Heaney)
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#413477
^ I chuckled.
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By winterflames (Derek Marlar)
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#413479
jadziadax8 wrote:This makes me sad.
I thought it was well known that i suck at deck building. I did not mean to disappoint.
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By Mogh, Son Of Worf (Meinhard S. Rohr)
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#413483
Armus wrote:
jadziadax8 wrote:This makes me sad.
To be fair, the Ferengi are a) not the easiest to play and b) haven't gotten a ton of Design love. Hopefully the new 1st Rule card that just came out will do something, though they'll probably need more than that for anything besides the very occasional Ferengi Military Operations deck to make an appearance.
Ferengi were the deck in TNG, but then their key cards got nerfed and not really replaced. However, nobody was too sad since everybody already got their play 5 on them at that point.
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By jadziadax8 (Maggie Geppert)
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ibbles  Trek Masters Tribbles Champion 2023
#413606
winterflames wrote:
jadziadax8 wrote:This makes me sad.
I thought it was well known that i suck at deck building. I did not mean to disappoint.
Sorry, I didn't mean to dig at your deckbuilding skills. I meant the general lack of Ferengi love in general, leading to them being lackluster at best.
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