Re: Strange New Worlds
Posted: Fri May 20, 2022 3:10 pm
Speaking of the most recent episode,
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The Guardian wrote: ↑Fri May 20, 2022 3:10 pm Speaking of the most recent episode,Aww heck yeah. Maaybe wait for the remaining seven to air just in case we find out Spock is an eighth Klingon or Pike is a Horta with a really convincing costume. Wait, should I have used a spoiler tag?.
Faithful Reader wrote: ↑Mon May 30, 2022 1:26 pmIt is odd that Una's Magical healing has worn off after a week but all in all a good hour.These kinds of inconsistencies are part and parcel of episodic Star Trek.
Faithful Reader wrote: ↑Mon May 30, 2022 1:26 pmThe Gorn are being horribly used. In TOS there were misunderstood but here, they are a pack of bloodthirsty aliens which undermines everything done in Arena and muddies how well they would get along in the 24th century. Why not use the Tzenketi or somesuch?I couldn't disagree more. Remember, "Arena" is yet to come. Nothing in this episode contradicts there, because we know the Federation had heard of the Gorn before then. And the tactics used by the Gorn in "Arena" match what they used in this episode. This episode is adding to their lore, not taking away from it because it happens before "Arena." Then, Kirk gets to show mercy and start mending fences. Here, they are a terrifying adversary that is familiar to TOS fans w/o contradicting what is to come.
jadziadax8 wrote: ↑Mon May 30, 2022 3:38 pmHer healing abilities previously fought off an infection. Not shrapnel. There's nothing inconsistent there.Faithful Reader wrote: ↑Mon May 30, 2022 1:26 pmIt is odd that Una's Magical healing has worn off after a week but all in all a good hour.These kinds of inconsistencies are part and parcel of episodic Star Trek.
MidnightLich wrote:Agreed. They might be a bit more bloodthirsty than it looks in Arena, but that has been on display in Beta canon for years now.Faithful Reader wrote: ↑Mon May 30, 2022 1:26 pmThe Gorn are being horribly used. In TOS there were misunderstood but here, they are a pack of bloodthirsty aliens which undermines everything done in Arena and muddies how well they would get along in the 24th century. Why not use the Tzenketi or somesuch?I couldn't disagree more. Remember, "Arena" is yet to come. Nothing in this episode contradicts there, because we know the Federation had heard of the Gorn before then. And the tactics used by the Gorn in "Arena" match what they used in this episode. This episode is adding to their lore, not taking away from it because it happens before "Arena." Then, Kirk gets to show mercy and start mending fences. Here, they are a terrifying adversary that is familiar to TOS fans w/o contradicting what is to come.
-crp
MidnightLich wrote: Nothing in this episode contradicts thereExcept for the whole going out and conquering someone as opposed to defending sovereign territory. There's a pretty huge gap there.
Cartagia wrote: Her healing abilities previously fought off an infection. Not shrapnel. There's nothing inconsistent there.Joe: Hey Steve, working on the new healing abilities for our genomes?
Faithful Reader wrote: ↑Wed Jun 01, 2022 12:47 pmAn immune system is absolutely not the same as an ability to heal and therefore, genetic alterations to each would have to be separate. Even if one could say, program an immune system strong enough to destroy any foreign object, blunt force trauma still requires a separate healing component and essentially vice versa, as the cells ability to reproduce while clotting agents take effect have no impact on the foreign substance/item I really don't understand what point you are making with this hypothetical conversation except to point out that you don't seem to understand the difference.MidnightLich wrote: Nothing in this episode contradicts thereExcept for the whole going out and conquering someone as opposed to defending sovereign territory. There's a pretty huge gap there.
Cartagia wrote: Her healing abilities previously fought off an infection. Not shrapnel. There's nothing inconsistent there.Joe: Hey Steve, working on the new healing abilities for our genomes?
Steve: Yeah. It will be great to fight off any foreign agents.
Joe: Yeah, the flu can be a bitch to get through.
Steve: So can spears.
Joe: Wait, spears?
Steve: Yeah, they are a foreign object entering the body. Why even now, your body will work to counteract having a spear in your shoulder. It will start once the clotting happens and then heal itself as it was designed to do in the first place.
Joe: Yeah, but then I'll have a spear in my shoulder for the rest of my life.
Steve: Unless you pull it out.
Joe: Oh you mean if it doesn't do too much damage on entry, you could just pull it out?
Steve: Yeah. You need to use at least approximately the same angle but if you are OK with it going in, you'll be fine with it coming out.
Joe: So you can't regrow a major organ but you can repair something damaged?
Steve: Heck yeah. Come to think of it, we have transporter technology so we can beam out the foreign object if necessary and large enough.
Joe: But what If I don't want the flu but am OK with having a spear in my shoulder? Can you program my genetic structure accordingly?
Steve, I suppose so, but we're primarily enhancing and accelerating something your body already does naturally. We could make a spear exception but that would be more work and be stupid. Plus anti-spear.
Joe: Wow, thanks for the help!
Faithful Reader wrote: ↑Sat May 07, 2022 4:35 pmWell shit. That's no fun. I want to know what Ross has to say!
MOD EDIT (nobthehobbit, 2022-05-07): Post edited to remove sociopolitical comment.