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By chompers (Steve Hartmann)
 - Delta Quadrant
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Continuing Committee Member - Retired
1E Australian Continental Runner-Up 2019
2E Australian Continental Semi-Finalist 2019
#442350
Gomtuu Shock Wave 20 (+1)
Overwhelmed 19 (-1)
Restricted Area 6 (-1)
Rogue Borg Ambush 26 (+1)
Secret Identity 15 (-1)

All the Gomtuu hate is getting silly ... look at how many decks use this card compared to Overwhelmed.

Overwhelmed could be good .. it's just not

Same scenario for Secret Identity
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By bosskamiura (Thomas Kamiura)
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#442355
chompers wrote:All the Gomtuu hate is getting silly ...
You know what haters do, Chompers? They hate...

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By Armus (Brian Sykes)
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#442424
Gomtuu Shock Wave 19 (-1)
Overwhelmed 20 (+1)
Restricted Area 5 (-1)
Rogue Borg Ambush 25 (-1)
Secret Identity 16 (+1)
All the Gomtuu hate is getting silly ... look at how many decks use this card compared to Overwhelmed.

Overwhelmed could be good .. it's just not

Same scenario for Secret Identity
This is such a bad take.

Gomtuu is a strong dilemma but the double integrity requirement means whole affiliations auto-fail against it, making it bad for the game.

Overwhelmed might be past its prime but a well built pile can still catch a meta off guard. Look at Lucas's Continentals deck from two years ago.

SI is STILL one of the best setup dilemmas in the whole game. I use it in almost all of my piles specifically because there's so many things you can do with it.

I know Phil and Ben were on the Dereliction of Duty train during regionals season and there's no question that's also a good card (it killed Princess Dax for crying out loud! ) but SI can be a directed target against a certain skill OR ability and it's not uncommon for both situations to arise in a game.

Based on the voting so far I know I may not win this argument, but if my fave is going down, it's going down swinging.
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By LORE (Kris Sonsteby)
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1E Andoria Regional Champion 2023
2E Andoria Regional Champion 2023
W.C.T. Chairman's Trophy winner 2014-2015
#442426
Gomtuu Shock Wave 34 (+15)
Overwhelmed 20 (-20)
Restricted Area 0 (-5)
Rogue Borg Ambush 25
Secret Identity 26 (+10)

Fixed that for you. The two cards STILL competing with RBA, SI, and Gomtuu, aren't even in the same league as those 3. We don't need 6 more pages of goobly gook to determine that. Now, can we please move on to Necessary Evil? You know, a set where there is actually a lot of room for debate because there were at least a dozen that were awesome?
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By chompers (Steve Hartmann)
 - Delta Quadrant
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Continuing Committee Member - Retired
1E Australian Continental Runner-Up 2019
2E Australian Continental Semi-Finalist 2019
#442467
Gomtuu Shock Wave 19 (+1)
Overwhelmed 20 (-1)
Restricted Area 3 (-1)
Rogue Borg Ambush 23 (-1)
Secret Identity 18 (+1)

My favourite affiliation doesn't have Intelligence (this is not true but trying to illustrate a point) and I don't like hand weapons

Time to take the trash out :)

Can we put more than one vote on the same dilemma? Do the rules (if they exist) say you can't?
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By GooeyChewie (Nathan Miracle)
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#442494
With four left, we'll got to +1/-3, which should help move things along.

Gomtuu Shock Wave 21 (-1)
Overwhelmed 16 (-1)
Rogue Borg Ambush 21 (-1)
Secret Identity 20 (+1)

Of the "if you still have nine personnel remaining" dilemmas, I always favored Restricted Area, because capture in 2E is a fate worse than death. But I can see why it doesn't stand up to the remaining dilemmas.

In another effort to move things along, let's make some more reasonable numbers. -10 to everybody.

Gomtuu Shock Wave 11
Overwhelmed 6
Rogue Borg Ambush 11
Secret Identity 10
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