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By KillerB (John Corbett)
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#434466
So I babble about "Power Rankings" from time to time. These aren't just the imaginary rankings in my head, but a running thread on the designs boards. Started it back in April of last year. I'm going to import them here and make them public.

Here was my original concept:
KillerB wrote:
This is my arbitrary rankings, based on overall strength. Kinda like Hurt n' Heal, each designer, if they want, can move up/down one affiliation/faction. Limit it to once a week at most. At least try to, after each big event, take a look at decklist and see where it stands.
It still works like Hurt n' Heal. If you participate, please keep the 'once a week' limit.

Here's the current rankings (as of 7/28/18):

1. [DS9]
2. [SF]
3. [Bor]
4. [Rom]
5. [Fer]
6. [TNG]
7. [Voy]
8. [Baj]
9. [Kli]
10. [Maq]
11. [Fut] [Fed]
12. [Car]
13. [Dom]
14. [TOS]
15. [DS9-E]
16. [TN]
17. [DQ] [Holo]
18. [NA] [BB]
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By monty42 (Benjamin Liebich)
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2E German National Champion 2022
#434472
Is this supported in any way, shape or form by any actual data (and if so, what?) or is it just your personal opinion?
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By KillerB (John Corbett)
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#434493
monty42 wrote:Is this supported in any way, shape or form by any actual data (and if so, what?) or is it just your personal opinion?
The original list last year was mine, then its evolved a little since then.

Who the fuck needs data? I said when I started this that this might be one of my clunker ideas, and it looks like it's the case.

All I'm trying to do here is cultivate a collective opinion of the state of the game. I also wanted the designers to pay attention to the game.

Maybe it's dumb, but if Charlie (or somebody else) posted it people would be waving pom-poms.

I owe you some drunk angry posts BigBen. This is the weekend for it. I'm ready to talk some shit.
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By chompers (Steve Hartmann)
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1E Australian Continental Runner-Up 2019
2E Australian Continental Semi-Finalist 2019
#434495
Data never lies

Affiliation HQ tell me Borg and Khan are the top two affiliations in the game right now
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By chompers (Steve Hartmann)
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#434496
1. [DS9]
2. [SF]
3. [Bor]
4. [Rom]
5. [Fer]
6. [TNG]
7. [Baj]
8. [Voy]
9. [Kli]
10. [Maq]
11. [Car] (+1)
12. [Fut] [Fed]
13. [Dom]
14. [TOS]
15. [DS9-E]
16. [TN]
17. [DQ] [Holo]
18. [NA] [BB]
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By Armus (Brian Sykes)
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#434497
I'm assuming this is Standard.

If it's HOF, [Car] is criminally underrated.
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By Marquetry
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2E North American Continental Quarter-Finalist 2023
#434498
The Romulans are good at too many damn things. And no idea how DS9 is at the top, Rainbow Dash has weaknesses.


1. [DS9]
2. [SF]
3. [Rom] +1
4. [Bor] -1
5. [Fer]
6. [TNG]
7. [Baj]
8. [Voy]
9. [Kli]
10. [Maq]
11. [Car]
12. [Fut] [Fed]
13. [Dom]
14. [TOS]
15. [DS9-E]
16. [TN]
17. [DQ] [Holo]
18. [NA] [BB]
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By KillerB (John Corbett)
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#434500
Armus wrote:I'm assuming this is Standard.
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That's a good question.... This was conceived before HoF took over the East. And we'll see how it effects TCM.

I look at it on an overall basis. Maybe as HoF grows it would need a split (like the Coaches and AP poll in college football).
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By Latok
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1E Australian Continental Champion 2019
2E Australian Continental Runner-Up 2019
#434506
KillerB wrote:
monty42 wrote:Is this supported in any way, shape or form by any actual data (and if so, what?) or is it just your personal opinion?
The original list last year was mine, then its evolved a little since then.

Who the fuck needs data? I said when I started this that this might be one of my clunker ideas, and it looks like it's the case.

All I'm trying to do here is cultivate a collective opinion of the state of the game. I also wanted the designers to pay attention to the game.

Maybe it's dumb, but if Charlie (or somebody else) posted it people would be waving pom-poms.

I owe you some drunk angry posts BigBen. This is the weekend for it. I'm ready to talk some shit.
But also if someone else posted it you'd be shitting on it.

Ignoring the obvious arbitrariness which you've already pointed out my problem with this is that a straight 1-18 list is not indicative of the actual gaps between affiliations.

1. [DS9]
2. [SF]
3. [Rom]
4. [Bor]
5. [Fer]
6. [TNG]
7. [Baj]
8. [Voy]
9. [Kli]
10. [Maq]
11. [Car]
12. [Fut] [Fed]
13. [Dom]
14. [TOS]

15.
16. [DS9-E] (-1)
17. [TN]
18. [DQ] [Holo]
19. [NA] [BB]
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By KillerB (John Corbett)
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#434507
Latok wrote: But also if someone else posted it you'd be shitting on it.

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Fuck you and your fake news. I call out CC failures, but I don't shit on people doing positive things. Even the new WOTC, even though its shit the bed so far. I trust Lucas to do good work.
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By Latok
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1E Australian Continental Champion 2019
2E Australian Continental Runner-Up 2019
#434508
KillerB wrote:
Latok wrote: But also if someone else posted it you'd be shitting on it.

]
Fuck you and your fake news. I call out CC failures, but I don't shit on people doing positive things. Even the new WOTC, even though its shit the bed so far. I trust Lucas to do good work.
That's bullshit, an easy example is the online trek community you shit on all the time.
Second, your doublespeak is so transparent, you are shitting on WotC right there. Shit the bed before picking a character? Not biased against it are you?
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By TyKajada (Alexander Schmitz)
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#434509
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Borg and Ferengi in 3rd to 5th rank is plain ridiculous. If that would be true, by far more people would play these affiliations.
I rate both of them in the bottom third at best.
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By KillerB (John Corbett)
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#434511
TyKajada wrote:.

Borg and Ferengi in 3rd to 5th rank is plain ridiculous. If that would be true, by far more people would play these affiliations.
I rate both of them in the bottom third at best.
What the masses play isn't that big of a deal to me. I go by what wins and what I see in my travels.

If you don't play alot then maybe trends matter more. Everybody has their perspective.

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