[The Prefect]

Kai Winn, Weyoun, and even the Founder Leader: all great. But, not iconic. Not series defining.

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[monty42]

Sela schmela. Nostalgia for Yar + Denise Crosby needed a gig.

Q was great. But, on the level of Dukat? No. He was a more well-developed and better-acted Trelane.

Locutus was only interesting because underneath it all it was Picard turned against himself.

Kai Winn, Weyoun, and even the Founder Leader: all great. But, not iconic. Not series defining. Listen, if I had my way we'd be doing an 81 card set on the Dominion War, and it would be fantastic! But, I don't always get what I want.

Anyway they were all more interesting than Culluh and the rest of the VOY stooges!

[monty42]

Here's my opinion boiled down: if a new affiliation gets a significant number of players excited, if it creates buzz, if it's done well, and if it adds something to the game - then it's a win.

And frankly, it would also serve as a message to 2E players that we're as worthy of innovation as 1E. I travel across my region. I hear it all the time: 1E gets all the new stuff. They're not 100% right, but part of the reason they feel that way is because 2E sets have been consistently shrinking while 1E gets a new affiliation roll-out. Players notice things like that.

Maybe it's time we broaden our horizons. That's all I'm saying.

2E can get new stuff without getting a new affilation.
You of all people should know that.

[Marquetry]

Sela schmela. Nostalgia for Yar + Denise Crosby needed a gig.

Q was great. But, on the level of Dukat? No. He was a more well-developed and better-acted Trelane.

Locutus was only interesting because underneath it all it was Picard turned against himself.

Kai Winn, Weyoun, and even the Founder Leader: all great. But, not iconic. Not series defining. Listen, if I had my way we'd be doing an 81 card set on the Dominion War, and it would be fantastic! But, I don't always get what I want.

Here's my opinion boiled down: if a new affiliation gets a significant number of players excited, if it creates buzz, if it's done well, and if it adds something to the game - then it's a win.

And frankly, it would also serve as a message to 2E players that we're as worthy of innovation as 1E. I travel across my region. I hear it all the time: 1E gets all the new stuff. They're not 100% right, but part of the reason they feel that way is because 2E sets have been consistently shrinking while 1E gets a new affiliation roll-out. Players notice things like that.

Maybe it's time we broaden our horizons. That's all I'm saying.

I would get super-excited for an adequate amount of DQ love in 2E.

And no, Kai Winn or Weyoun were not more exciting than Cullah IMO...

[The Prefect]

Here's my opinion boiled down: if a new affiliation gets a significant number of players excited, if it creates buzz, if it's done well, and if it adds something to the game - then it's a win.

And frankly, it would also serve as a message to 2E players that we're as worthy of innovation as 1E. I travel across my region. I hear it all the time: 1E gets all the new stuff. They're not 100% right, but part of the reason they feel that way is because 2E sets have been consistently shrinking while 1E gets a new affiliation roll-out. Players notice things like that.

Maybe it's time we broaden our horizons. That's all I'm saying.

2E can get new stuff without getting a new affilation.
You of all people should know that.

I do know that. I also know that new affiliations can offer creative avenues that may not fit well within existing affiliations. Surely you know that?

[monty42]

Here's my opinion boiled down: if a new affiliation gets a significant number of players excited, if it creates buzz, if it's done well, and if it adds something to the game - then it's a win.

And frankly, it would also serve as a message to 2E players that we're as worthy of innovation as 1E. I travel across my region. I hear it all the time: 1E gets all the new stuff. They're not 100% right, but part of the reason they feel that way is because 2E sets have been consistently shrinking while 1E gets a new affiliation roll-out. Players notice things like that.

Maybe it's time we broaden our horizons. That's all I'm saying.

2E can get new stuff without getting a new affilation.
You of all people should know that.

I do know that. I also know that new affiliations can offer creative avenues that may not fit well within existing affiliations. Surely you know that?

I know. Yet with so many existing avenues still untapped, why would you feel the need to turn to new ones?

[monty42]

Sela schmela. Nostalgia for Yar + Denise Crosby needed a gig.

Q was great. But, on the level of Dukat? No. He was a more well-developed and better-acted Trelane.

Locutus was only interesting because underneath it all it was Picard turned against himself.

Kai Winn, Weyoun, and even the Founder Leader: all great. But, not iconic. Not series defining. Listen, if I had my way we'd be doing an 81 card set on the Dominion War, and it would be fantastic! But, I don't always get what I want.

Here's my opinion boiled down: if a new affiliation gets a significant number of players excited, if it creates buzz, if it's done well, and if it adds something to the game - then it's a win.

And frankly, it would also serve as a message to 2E players that we're as worthy of innovation as 1E. I travel across my region. I hear it all the time: 1E gets all the new stuff. They're not 100% right, but part of the reason they feel that way is because 2E sets have been consistently shrinking while 1E gets a new affiliation roll-out. Players notice things like that.

Maybe it's time we broaden our horizons. That's all I'm saying.

I would get super-excited for an adequate amount of DQ love in 2E.

And no, Kai Winn or Weyoun were not more exciting than Cullah IMO...

So even if I give you Culluh, what about the Viidians and the Hirogen.
Also I haven't watched Voyager recently, can you give me a little background on Culluh?

[The Prefect]

Yet with so many existing avenues still untapped, why would you feel the need to turn to new ones?

Any number of reasons. Sometimes the creative muse strikes. Maybe designers are more interesting in breaking new ground then adding to something that already exists. Maybe they feel there's a deserving piece of a franchise that's been paid too little attention. Maybe they see potential. And don't underestimate the power of the message: we're worth the same level of effort as 1E. Sometimes, in life, perception is reality.

But, let me flip the question back around: if there's untapped creative potential, a willingness to put forth the effort to make a good product, and a player appetite for it: why would you be so opposed to a new affiliation?

[The Prefect]

Yet with so many existing avenues still untapped, why would you feel the need to turn to new ones?

Let me put it a different way.

Hypothetical: Suppose a designer pitches Kazon and it gets approved. A team is assembled. They work hard. They come up with something good. Fun. Flavorful. An affiliation that adds something to the game. It's well-received in testing. Rules sees no problems. Johnny knocks the new template design out of the park: it loos great. Creative works some magic with lore and subtitles and titles and image suggestions, and Art really delivers. In short: it's well executed.

Are you telling me under those circumstances, you'd still quit? You'd still disapprove?

[monty42]

Yet with so many existing avenues still untapped, why would you feel the need to turn to new ones?

Let me put it a different way.

Hypothetical: Suppose a designer pitches Kazon and it gets approved. A team is assembled. They work hard. They come up with something good. Fun. Flavorful. An affiliation that adds something to the game. It's well-received in testing. Rules sees no problems. Johnny knocks the new template design out of the park: it loos great. Creative works some magic with lore and subtitles and titles and image suggestions, and Art really delivers. In short: it's well executed.

Are you telling me under those circumstances, you'd still quit? You'd still disapprove?

I'd be out the door!
To be quite honest, that would be the perfect excuse for me to quit.

[bhosp]

Kai Winn, Weyoun, and even the Founder Leader: all great. But, not iconic. Not series defining.

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[The Prefect]

I'd be out the door!
To be quite honest, that would be the perfect excuse for me to quit.

Well, then you could see why one would get the impression you weren't being open-minded.

And, why are you looking for an excuse?

[bhosp]

I would get super-excited for an adequate amount of DQ love in 2E.

I happen to know that there was a promising pitch for a Vidiian concept in the works, but who knows what will happen to it now that Design is under new “likable” leadership.

ALL HAIL THE TONE

[The Prefect]

And, they did...

[bhosp]

I'd be out the door!
To be quite honest, that would be the perfect excuse for me to quit.

Well, then you could see why one would get the impression you weren't being open-minded.

And, why are you looking for an excuse?

Is a man not entitled to the rage of his quit?