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By Faithful Reader (Ross Fertel)
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#462645
Last winter, with the release of Shattered Mirror, the Klingon-Cardassian Alliance became a stand along faction with a Headquarters, support cards and a whole lot of swag. There was a section in the Affiliation HQ and everything.

Looking ahead to the Terra prime faction, internal discussions seem to consider it more along the lines of the sub-HQs, for lack of a better term. It has a bona fide HQ of its own, but functions is more of a subset of Earth, Humanity's Home in terms of cards that can report to it. Think more of Bajor, Blessed by the Prophets. There's a restriction on the cards you can play there, but you get a benefit if you do so. Don't worry, there's a lot there to support this new faction.

What do you think about about these sub HQs? How are they conceptually? Which existing affiliations would you like to see use them in the future? Most importantly, what's your favorite and why?
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By Danny (Daniel Giddings)
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#462655
Faithful Reader wrote:What do you think about about these sub HQs?

I like them. From what's been said, it sounds like Terra Prime is to Starfleet as Equinox is to Voyager; there's probably going to be some crossover, but to get the best out of one, you can't really play the other.
Faithful Reader wrote:How are they conceptually? Which existing affiliations would you like to see use them in the future?
I like to see a standalone Smugglers and Thieves HQ. What's the Trek universe equivalent of Mos Eisley? Farius Prime?

EDIT: Ooh, and a Vulcan to play Vulcans to would also be nice.
Faithful Reader wrote:Most importantly, what's your favorite and why?
Probably Equinox - baked in game text counts for a lot.

While we're on the subject, any chance of a Hologram HQ icon popping up in the affiliation HQ page?
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By monty42 (Benjamin Liebich)
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#462661
Danny wrote:I like to see a standalone Smugglers and Thieves HQ.
+1
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By nobthehobbit (Daniel Pareja)
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#462664
monty42 wrote:
Danny wrote:I like to see a standalone Smugglers and Thieves HQ.
+1
Maybe the game has changed enough that it could have this now, but didn't Caleb Grace pitch this as one of his World Champion design-a-card prizes, only for it to be rejected?
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By monty42 (Benjamin Liebich)
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#462666
nobthehobbit wrote:
monty42 wrote:
Danny wrote:I like to see a standalone Smugglers and Thieves HQ.
+1
Maybe the game has changed enough that it could have this now, but didn't Caleb Grace pitch this as one of his World Champion design-a-card prizes, only for it to be rejected?
Wasn't that like 12 years ago?
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By nobthehobbit (Daniel Pareja)
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monty42 wrote: Wasn't that like 12 years ago?
It was. That's why I thought the game might have changed enough by now that such an HQ could be allowed.
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By monty42 (Benjamin Liebich)
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#462676
nobthehobbit wrote:
monty42 wrote: Wasn't that like 12 years ago?
It was. That's why I thought the game might have changed enough by now that such an HQ could be allowed.
To be fair, I don't think the game has changed that much. The people in charge have changed. More importantly though people's perception of the game has changed.
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By nobthehobbit (Daniel Pareja)
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#462678
monty42 wrote:
nobthehobbit wrote:
monty42 wrote: Wasn't that like 12 years ago?
It was. That's why I thought the game might have changed enough by now that such an HQ could be allowed.
To be fair, I don't think the game has changed that much. The people in charge have changed. More importantly though people's perception of the game has changed.
One big issue I think would be affiliation-mingling, especially if it just allowed all Smugglers and Thieves. Probably also [NA] ships. That might be too permissive; restricting it to [NA] might be too restrictive.

(In addition to a whole whack of [NA] personnel, you'd have [Baj] , [Fer] , [Fed] [Voy] , [Fed] [TOS] , [Dom] , [Fer] [TN] , [Kli] , [Car] , [NA] [Maq] , and [Rom] .)
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By monty42 (Benjamin Liebich)
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#462679
nobthehobbit wrote:One big issue I think would be affiliation-mingling, especially if it just allowed all Smugglers and Thieves. Probably also [NA] ships. That might be too permissive; restricting it to [NA] might be too restrictive.

(In addition to a whole whack of [NA] personnel, you'd have [Baj] , [Fer] , [Fed] [Voy] , [Fed] [TOS] , [Dom] , [Fer] [TN] , [Kli] , [Car] , [NA] [Maq] , and [Rom] .)
Counter point, that might just make it good. Let design and playtesting handle the technicalities.
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By Faithful Reader (Ross Fertel)
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#462741
nobthehobbit wrote:One big issue I think would be affiliation-mingling, especially if it just allowed all Smugglers and Thieves. Probably also [NA] ships. That might be too permissive; restricting it to [NA] might be too restrictive.

(In addition to a whole whack of [NA] personnel, you'd have [Baj] , [Fer] , [Fed] [Voy] , [Fed] [TOS] , [Dom] , [Fer] [TN] , [Kli] , [Car] , [NA] [Maq] , and [Rom] .)

It might not be all that bad. Thieves have access to those affiliations, but Ferengi aside, it's just a couple here and there. Think how Rainbow DS9 is with Cardassian/Klingon/Romulan, but for six affiliations. Hmm, Thief decks aren't too hot. Would such a card make you want to play a deck? What about other carrots/grease?

Smugglers are already a thing. How well would they do with Thieves?
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By Jono (Sean O'Reilly)
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#462764
Should be a [NA] headquarters that gives a bonus to a Thief or Smuggler. We don’t need other affiliations barging in on this one. Just a nice Orion Syndicate headquarters.
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By Danny (Daniel Giddings)
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#462825
Faithful Reader wrote:Smugglers are already a thing. How well would they do with Thieves?
Pretty well, I think; there are already some cards that treat them similarly (JLP Galen, the Barfly, Soft Sell), so there's some overlap and synergy.
Jono wrote:Should be a [NA] headquarters that gives a bonus to a Thief or Smuggler. We don’t need other affiliations barging in on this one. Just a nice Orion Syndicate headquarters.
More bodies are always nice. The HQ could take a cue from Mirror Bajor, and read
Each Smuggler personnel and Thief personnel you own becomes [NA].
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By Marquetry
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#462826
That would also help prevent odd cards from being used in the deck (that aren't intended)... sounds fun!
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#462895
Why not just make some new HQ's with [Vid] [Vul] [Hir] ? You guys already make how many different copies of each show's bridge crew how many different times? Sorry but to me it's very boring. The game needs something spicy. :twocents:
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