eberlems wrote:
Where was my flaw in the logic?
Short answer: in the parsing of the logical statement.
You're separating the selection and the stop when they're both part of the same action
If we call the Selection A and the stop B, then both pinned down and Indecent Proposal read "Randomly A to B" which evaluates to A AND B. Lore says NOT B (~B)
So with pinned down selecting Lore (or Koval in the rulebook example) it's
A AND B
~B
Therefore (A and B) is false and nothing happens.
However, with Indecent Proposal it's a little more involved.
It reads
A and B
If (A and B)=false, C, where C is the second part of the dilemma.
So when encountering the dilemma there's 3 scenarios:
1) A and B are both true
2) A is false and B is true
3) A is true and B is false
(There's also the trivial case of A and B both being false but it resolves the same as 2 and 3 below and I don't have a use case handy - it would definitely take some doing)
If 1, then a high cost person gets stopped and the dilemma bounces.
If 2, there was no personnel eligible for the random selection, so proceed to C, a choice stop occurs and the dilemma goes under
If 3, there was no personnel eligible to be stopped - which is the case with Lore as the only option - so proceed to C and resolve as in 2 above.
That's how I arrived at my previous conclusion.
Now, to Greg's question: this is a little trickier, but using the same logic as the Command Decisions precedent, i would argue that since i can't CHOOSE to make (A and B) false by selecting Lore for Command Decisions, I must choose my alternative because I must make (A and B) true if possible.
Therefore, it can be
inferred that if Lore is selected and there's another option that would make (A and B) true, then the selection of Lore must give way to that option. Technically that means I reselect until I get a valid target, but in practical terms that means Lore is excluded from the selection.
However, my answer is just that: a logical inference. It can also be inferred that since the rule applies specifically to choices and not random selections, Maggie's ruling is correct under the "do as much as you can" principle and I'm open to that being the ultimately correct interpretation, though I think it's ambiguous enough that Rules Mistress Amber should probably weigh in with a clarification.