Discuss all of your questions, concerns, comments and ideas about Second Edition.
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By Faithful Reader (Ross Fertel)
 - Gamma Quadrant
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Continuing Committee Member - Retired
#558256
It's Wednesday! We're more than halfway through Since we are over the hump, let's look at a question!

Last Week: MCU Draft
7-7-21 Let's Get Dangerous (Missions)
6-30-21 Episode Untouched by Human Hands
6-23-21 More Keywords? More keywords!
6-16-21 We Want You as the New Recruit
6-9-2 1Most Underrated Personnel
6-2-21 Pop-Up Edition!
5-26/21A Protected Voyage
5/19/21: Mission ... Unknown!
5-12-21: Favorite theme from Heroes and Demons
5-5-21: Most Favoritist Errata Ever (May 2021)
4-28-21: Region(al) love
4-20-21: Shiny New Toy!
4-13-21: Mission: The Good, the bad and the powerful
4-6-21Change this Dilemma now!
3-31-21Which affiliation should get an HQ next?
3-24-21What keyword needs some love?:
3-17-14Which are your favorite and least favorite keywords?
3-10-14 Where can you play Trellium-D?
3-3-21Balance Team Focus
2-24-21Ding Marry Kill: Apocalypse Rising
2-17-21Cardassia Prime: Subjugated Planet Survey


This week, it's time to get person(ne)al!

Which personnel is most in need of errata and why? Do they need a small but important tweak? Does their ability need to be reigned in? Does it need more teeth to be workable? Are they in need of nothing less than a complete overhaul?

Let us know but not more than one card.
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By Armus (Brian Sykes)
 - The Center of the Galaxy
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Goateed
Community Contributor
1E American National Second Runner-Up 2020
#558258
The problem isn't one personnel. Most of the egregious single personnel (e.g., OT Kirk, Kruge, Donatra, 2-cost Quark) have been dealt with.

The biggest issues now are piles of pretty good personnel that combine with verbs, ships, and missions to form Voltron. Nerfing single personnel doesn't solve that problem.

Examples:
Suicide Bomb Remans/Romulan Discard
Briar Patch NeuDominion
Relativity (at least pre-Temporal Transporters Errata)
Borg Assimilator (at least when done right)
JaegerBomb
LEGO Starfleet
Mega- counter Ferengi

Maybe that should be next week's FumQ or whatever these things are called....
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By Danny (Daniel Giddings)
 - Gamma Quadrant
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Wanderer
2E European Continental Quarter-Finalist 2019
2E British National Runner-Up 2021
#558267
jadziadax8 wrote: Wed Jul 21, 2021 8:40 pm Dorian Collins

:shifty:

I don't get it - what's wrong with DC (in either printing)?
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By Boffo97 (Dave Hines)
 - Gamma Quadrant
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Moderator
#558269
Danny wrote: Thu Jul 22, 2021 1:50 am I don't get it - what's wrong with DC (in either printing)?
Dorian Collins' 1E card is part of the Metamorphosis set which was (mainly) a last bunch of 2EBC cards to be converted before 2EBC cards became illegal in 1E OTF (and at least some Open tournaments). She's a conversion of Dorian Collins, Acting Chief Petty Officer from Necessary Evil.

As part of the conversion, her INTEGRITY dropped from 6 on the original 2E card to 3 on the new 1E card. It's been a source of controversy ever since but the current Powers That Be On Such Things are firmly on the side of the INTEGRITY loss being warranted, so it's one of those arguments where the horse has long since been beaten into glue.
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By Enabran
 - Beta Quadrant
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1E Borg Region Regional Participant 2021
#558270
Locutus, Voice of the Borg should never have this name. It should be Jean Juc Picad , Voice of the Borg or Jean Juc Picad, Locutus

Every Mirror personnel with a counterpart in the main universe should bear the name "Mirror" in the first place (Mirror Spock, Mirror Kira Nerys, Mirror Leeta aso)
With the current Name-sheme Something like in Eye to eye is almost impossible to have in 2E
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By Danny (Daniel Giddings)
 - Gamma Quadrant
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Wanderer
2E European Continental Quarter-Finalist 2019
2E British National Runner-Up 2021
#558272
Boffo97 wrote: Thu Jul 22, 2021 3:38 amAs part of the conversion, her INTEGRITY dropped from 6 on the original 2E card to 3 on the new 1E card. It's been a source of controversy ever since but the current Powers That Be On Such Things are firmly on the side of the INTEGRITY loss being warranted, so it's one of those arguments where the horse has long since been beaten into glue.

Thanks for that.

Ooh, that's just sad and embarrassing :(
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By Danny (Daniel Giddings)
 - Gamma Quadrant
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Wanderer
2E European Continental Quarter-Finalist 2019
2E British National Runner-Up 2021
#558273
Enabran wrote: Thu Jul 22, 2021 8:00 amWith the current Name-sheme Something like in Eye to eye is almost impossible to have in 2E

This is something I agree with. Regretful Leader did it wrong, Elder T'Pol got it right.

For AU, this could be cleared up with a line added to the rulebook, or a specific card that "shatters" the mirror.
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By jadziadax8 (Maggie Geppert)
 - Executive Officer
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2E World Semi-Finalist 2021
Grand Nagus
1E North American Continental Champion 2021
2E North American Continental Quarter-Finalist 2021
#558281
Danny wrote: Thu Jul 22, 2021 8:29 am
Boffo97 wrote: Thu Jul 22, 2021 3:38 amAs part of the conversion, her INTEGRITY dropped from 6 on the original 2E card to 3 on the new 1E card. It's been a source of controversy ever since but the current Powers That Be On Such Things are firmly on the side of the INTEGRITY loss being warranted, so it's one of those arguments where the horse has long since been beaten into glue.

Thanks for that.

Ooh, that's just sad and embarrassing :(
Sorry for any confusion my very bad joke may have caused. Thanks to @Boffo97 for clearing that up for all the non-1E folks here.
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