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By Faithful Reader (Ross Fertel)
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#568299
It's Wednesday! We're more than halfway through Since we are over the hump, let's look at a question!

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An idea over in First Edition has been floated around to have a set of just Worfs. Taking a cue from the episode Parallels, there would be some enabler to let them mix and match, presumably.

This is a better idea in First Edition than Second. We have a lot of personnel who are their version specifically so that their gametext does not have a funky mix with others. Take a look at Kira, the most obvious choice for this project due to sheer volume if nothing else, and you'll soon see why.

Which character would be a good choice for such a build in Second Edition? Think about skills along with affiliations, staffing, attributes; the whole nine yards.

Being absolutely clear, this is not happening at least as far as I know. This is just a fun little exercise that will unlikely spark a flame but a fun thing to think about.
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By Danny (Daniel Giddings)
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2E British National Runner-Up 2021
#568313
Quark's probably a good shout.

Drawing "inspiration" from 1E, there are [Baj] Deputy, [Maq] Arms Dealer, and [Car] Dissident versions 2E doesn't have.

Atop that you could have: a Commando version ("The Magnificent Ferengi"); another Arms Dealer personae ("Business As Usual"); [Pa] [Car]-affiliated employer of Bajorans ("Things Past").

And I guess tenuous arguments could be made for a Tongo player version (who aids someone when they play Tongo: Confront) or even another [Kli] flavoured one for the Quark that helps get Jadzia into Sto-vo-kor ("Shadows and Symbols").

That's... 8. Anyone got thoughts on a ninth to make a page for a boutique?
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By GooeyChewie (Nathan Miracle)
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#568316
Deep Space 9 probably provides the best opportunities for this sort of thing. It does the most affiliation-mixing, so to speak, which gives the main characters more opportunities to shift affiliations.

I'll likely come back and suggest others, but let's start with Julian Bashir.

[Dom] Hippocratic Oath
[Kli] Preparing for Worf's wedding
[Fed] [E] Friends with the Jack Pack (Fed Genetically Enhanced focused)
[Fed] [E] Section 31 Agent (or Pawn)
[Fed] [DS9] Host (Torias, akin to Lela and Curzon Odo)
[Fed] [DS9] Crossover (with text to play to Mirror Bajor)
[NA] Rao Vantika (Thief)
[NA] or [Fed] [DS9] Secret Agent Bashir
[Rom] Inter Arma Enim Silent Leges helping Senator Cretak
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By GooeyChewie (Nathan Miracle)
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#568317
Let's get creative and go with some cards that are Picard "from a certain point of view." Clones, replacements, that sort of thing.

[S] Lonely Among Us cloud (Picard as a mission!)
[Bor] Assimilation-focused Locutus
[Car] Prisoner Picard
[Kli] Arbiter of Succession
[NA] The imperfect replica
[NA] Admiral Picard, Barash's illusion
[Rom] Dissident Shinzon (pre-Praetor, alongside Tal'Aura and friends
[Fed] [TNG] Locutus (as part of an I, Borg theme with Fed TNG Hugh)
[NA] or [Fed] [TNG] Dixon Hill
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By Danny (Daniel Giddings)
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#568318
GooeyChewie wrote: Thu Dec 23, 2021 8:26 am Host Quark to go along with Lela and Curzon Odo.

And there's the boutique! Thanks!
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By Jesseon (Jesse Warburton)
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#568321
Danny wrote: Thu Dec 23, 2021 6:02 am Quark's probably a good shout.

Drawing "inspiration" from 1E, there are [Baj] Deputy, [Maq] Arms Dealer, and [Car] Dissident versions 2E doesn't have.

Atop that you could have: a Commando version ("The Magnificent Ferengi"); another Arms Dealer personae ("Business As Usual"); [Pa] [Car]-affiliated employer of Bajorans ("Things Past").

And I guess tenuous arguments could be made for a Tongo player version (who aids someone when they play Tongo: Confront) or even another [Kli] flavoured one for the Quark that helps get Jadzia into Sto-vo-kor ("Shadows and Symbols").

That's... 8. Anyone got thoughts on a ninth to make a page for a boutique?
Does 2E have this Quark yet? :P
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By Danny (Daniel Giddings)
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#568330
GooeyChewie wrote: Thu Dec 23, 2021 8:43 am Deep Space 9 probably provides the best opportunities for this sort of thing.

This is probably accurate. On a related note, I'm interested to see what Worfs are being bandied about on the 1E side. For 2E, I could come up with:

  • [Fed] Dissident Worf on Risa ("Let He Who Is Without Sin...")
  • [NA] Duchamps ("Our Man Bashir")
  • [NA] Sheriff Worf ("A Fistful of Datas")
  • [Fed] [TNG] Q. Worf as Will Scarlet ("Qpid")
  • [Kli] [TNG] Commander: Enterprise-D Worf ("The Emissary")
  • [Kli] Momentary Chancellor. Worf ("Tacking Into the Wind")
...

Hmmm. Worf's tough. Is this easier for 1E?
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By Danny (Daniel Giddings)
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#568331
Jesseon wrote: Thu Dec 23, 2021 12:01 pmDoes 2E have this Quark yet? :P

Nope, and I hope it never does :cry:
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By GooeyChewie (Nathan Miracle)
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#568333
Danny wrote: Thu Dec 23, 2021 3:30 pm Hmmm. Worf's tough. Is this easier for 1E?
Worf in particular has been pretty well covered. Off the top of my head, I can only think of two others:

[Kli] Colonel Worf (not technically the same character, but same actor and name)
[Rom] Worf from Birthright, for Conceal Unlikely Society
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By Danny (Daniel Giddings)
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#568355
GooeyChewie wrote: Thu Dec 23, 2021 3:57 pm [Kli] Colonel Worf (not technically the same character, but same actor and name)

That's a good one.

GooeyChewie wrote: Thu Dec 23, 2021 3:57 pm [Rom] Worf from Birthright, for Conceal Unlikely Society

I ummed and ahhed with this exact idea, but found it super hard to convince myself that one could justify a [Rom] Worf.
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By jadziadax8 (Maggie Geppert)
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#568360
Danny wrote: Fri Dec 24, 2021 5:25 am
GooeyChewie wrote: Thu Dec 23, 2021 3:57 pm [Kli] Colonel Worf (not technically the same character, but same actor and name)

That's a good one.

GooeyChewie wrote: Thu Dec 23, 2021 3:57 pm [Rom] Worf from Birthright, for Conceal Unlikely Society

I ummed and ahhed with this exact idea, but found it super hard to convince myself that one could justify a [Rom] Worf.
I was a little dubious on that too.
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By jadziadax8 (Maggie Geppert)
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#568361
Danny wrote: Thu Dec 23, 2021 10:51 am
GooeyChewie wrote: Thu Dec 23, 2021 8:26 am Host Quark to go along with Lela and Curzon Odo.

And there's the boutique! Thanks!
Yes please!
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By GooeyChewie (Nathan Miracle)
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#568366
Danny wrote: Fri Dec 24, 2021 5:25 am I ummed and ahhed with this exact idea, but found it super hard to convince myself that one could justify a [Rom] Worf.
jadziadax8 wrote:I was a little dubious on that too.
Then perhaps a [Kli] Worf who can play to Conceal Unlikely Society if you command a [Rom] Klingon?

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