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Star Trek Lore Nerds: Decloak OR Uncloak?

Posted: Mon Mar 02, 2020 4:41 pm
by MidnightLich
Which term should be used for a new power? Decloak? Or Uncloak? Which one is correct in-universe?

-crp

Re: Star Trek Lore Nerds: Decloak OR Uncloak?

Posted: Mon Mar 02, 2020 4:45 pm
by JeBuS
50 results for "decloak" in scripts

4 results for "uncloak" in scripts

Re: Star Trek Lore Nerds: Decloak OR Uncloak?

Posted: Mon Mar 02, 2020 5:02 pm
by Armus
Decloak sounds both more correct and better.

Re: Star Trek Lore Nerds: Decloak OR Uncloak?

Posted: Mon Mar 02, 2020 5:03 pm
by jjh
Decloak.

Re: Star Trek Lore Nerds: Decloak OR Uncloak?

Posted: Mon Mar 02, 2020 5:33 pm
by eberlems
drop [the] cloak
but I guess it has to be one word

Re: Star Trek Lore Nerds: Decloak OR Uncloak?

Posted: Mon Mar 02, 2020 5:43 pm
by Boffo97
I'd say both mean the same thing and are equally proper, like flammable and inflammable.

Re: Star Trek Lore Nerds: Decloak OR Uncloak?

Posted: Mon Mar 02, 2020 5:44 pm
by jadziadax8
Armus wrote:Decloak sounds both more correct and better.
Uncloak calls to mind naked Tribbles, and no one wants that.

Re: Star Trek Lore Nerds: Decloak OR Uncloak?

Posted: Mon Mar 02, 2020 5:50 pm
by JeBuS
Boffo97 wrote:I'd say both mean the same thing and are equally proper, like flammable and inflammable.
But what about deflammable and unflammable?

Re: Star Trek Lore Nerds: Decloak OR Uncloak?

Posted: Mon Mar 02, 2020 5:52 pm
by jadziadax8
Boffo97 wrote:I'd say both mean the same thing and are equally proper, like flammable and inflammable.
I am continually confused by inflammable meaning flammable. I mean, the prefix in- usually means "not," ammite?

Re: Star Trek Lore Nerds: Decloak OR Uncloak?

Posted: Mon Mar 02, 2020 7:31 pm
by Nerdopolis Prime
MidnightLich wrote:Which term should be used for a new power? Decloak? Or Uncloak? Which one is correct in-universe?

-crp
Exhibitionise :P

Re: Star Trek Lore Nerds: Decloak OR Uncloak?

Posted: Mon Mar 02, 2020 8:40 pm
by SudenKapala
Boffo97 wrote:I'd say both mean the same thing and are equally proper, like flammable and inflammable.
Beg to differ. I'd think "uncloak[ed]" is more akin to an aspect, or state, of a ship; I'd say it's not often -- if at all -- used as a verb.
"Decloaking" to me sounds right as the verb for the action of making a ship "uncloaked". A ship without a cloaking device is by definition uncloaked, but cannot (be) decloak(ed), because for that, it first has to be able to be cloaked. Or that's how I feel it. (And yes, I'm a part-time language nerd.)

I'd wager that this strong feeling -- which is roughly mirrored, I believe, in the above comments? -- stems from the number of used instances (which has also been dug up! :lol: :thumbsup: ) for these functions. There will prolly be some cross-talk, due to the fuzziness of the matter... but I'd say, if you want the verb, go for decloak.

Re: Star Trek Lore Nerds: Decloak OR Uncloak?

Posted: Mon Mar 02, 2020 8:43 pm
by AllenGould
jadziadax8 wrote:
Boffo97 wrote:I'd say both mean the same thing and are equally proper, like flammable and inflammable.
I am continually confused by inflammable meaning flammable. I mean, the prefix in- usually means "not," ammite?
It does, but near as I can tell the Latin changed from Olde English "into" (inflame = "into" flame), to "not" in the mid 16th century.

So, like 1E, some things get grandfathered in the Glossary - I mean dictionary. :D

Re: Star Trek Lore Nerds: Decloak OR Uncloak?

Posted: Thu Nov 26, 2020 11:44 am
by EdwardLarkin
SudenKapala wrote: Mon Mar 02, 2020 8:40 pm "Decloaking" to me sounds right as the verb for the action of making a ship "uncloaked". A ship without a cloaking device is by definition uncloaked, but cannot (be) decloak(ed), because for that, it first has to be able to be cloaked. Or that's how I feel it. (And yes, I'm a part-time language nerd.)

I'd wager that this strong feeling -- which is roughly mirrored, I believe, in the above comments? -- stems from the number of used instances (which has also been dug up! :lol: :thumbsup: ) for these functions. There will prolly be some cross-talk, due to the fuzziness of the matter... but I'd say, if you want the verb, go for decloak.
+1