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By SudenKapala (Suden Käpälä)
 - Delta Quadrant
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#461080
  1. [Vul]
  2. Image (All-Property)
  3. [SF]
  4. [1E-TNG] [Kli]
  5. [22] Image
  6. [Bor]
  7. [Hir]
  8. [KCA]
  9. [EE] [Fed]
  10. [1E-TNG] Image
  11. [Fed] (All-Property) :twocents: :twocents:
  12. [1E-TNG] [NA]
  13. [1E-TNG] [Fed]
  14. [Dom] :twocents:
  15. [OS] [TE]
  16. Image [Car]
  17. [1E-DS9] [Fed] [Baj]
  18. [22] [Kli]
  19. [TE]
  20. [1E-TNG] [SF]
  21. [Fer] (All-Property) :twocents: :twocents: :twocents: (+1)
  22. [1E-DS9] [Car] (-1)
  23. [1E-DS9] [Kli] [Fed]
  24. [1E-DQ] [Fed]
  25. [OS] [Fed] [Kli]
  26. [Kaz]
  27. [CF] [Fed] [Kli]
  28. [Kli] (All-Property)
  29. [Vid]
  30. [1E-DQ] [Holo]
  31. [TE] [SF]
  32. [Baj] (All-Property)
  33. [1E-DS9] [Fer] [Dom]
  34. [1E-TNG] [Fer]
  35. [1E-DS9] [Maq]
  36. [1E-DQ] [Maq]
  37. [1E-DS9] [Baj]
  38. [1E-DQ] [Kli]
  39. [1E-TNG] [Maq]
  40. [22] [NA]
This latinum, that the Cardiassians on Terok Nor owed me, was too close -- we didn't want to trade for it through intermediaries. But as said, we'll solve this incursion of the Ferengi one way or the other. We don't mind being looked down upon, as long as we're rich.

So, Armus, which affiliation of the top 11 -- or even top 14 -- did you think needs to go down? (They can be my latinum bellboys couriers. (Everything but :borg: ! :wink: 8) )
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By BCSWowbagger (James Heaney)
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#461084
  1. [Vul]
  2. Image (All-Property)
  3. [SF]
  4. [1E-TNG] [Kli]
  5. [22] Image
  6. [Bor]
  7. [Hir]
  8. [KCA]
  9. [EE] [Fed]
  10. [1E-TNG] Image
  11. [Fed] (All-Property)
  12. [1E-TNG] [NA]
  13. [1E-TNG] [Fed]
  14. [Dom]
  15. [OS] [TE]
  16. Image [Car]
  17. [1E-DS9] [Fed] [Baj]
  18. [22] [Kli]
  19. [TE]
  20. [1E-TNG] [SF]
  21. [1E-DS9] [Car] (+1)
  22. [Fer] (All-Property) (-1)
  23. [1E-DS9] [Kli] [Fed]
  24. [1E-DQ] [Fed]
  25. [OS] [Fed] [Kli]
  26. [Kaz]
  27. [CF] [Fed] [Kli]
  28. [Kli] (All-Property)
  29. [Vid]
  30. [1E-DQ] [Holo]
  31. [TE] [SF]
  32. [Baj] (All-Property)
  33. [1E-DS9] [Fer] [Dom]
  34. [1E-TNG] [Fer]
  35. [1E-DS9] [Maq]
  36. [1E-DQ] [Maq]
  37. [1E-DS9] [Baj]
  38. [1E-DQ] [Kli]
  39. [1E-TNG] [Maq]
  40. [22] [NA]
The line must be drawn here! This far, no farther!
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By SudenKapala (Suden Käpälä)
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#461087
Ensign Q wrote:besides vulcan get to draw insane amounts of draws and freeplay, im disappointed.
So YOU were playing [Vul] AND disappointed at their strength!? Then it must be as serious as you say.
But I think we can rest assured that if it's this far apart, something will be done at one point or another, to close the gap, or give us even more work in this topic. (As in: having to switch much more around.) :wink:
Armus wrote:And there's multiple ways to make a Tier One Vulcan deck.
Defenitions question. Is 'Tier 1' a (semi-)official term? Can you give me, or link to, a list of other 'tiers'? Our playgroup also use a tier system to rank decks (so as to pitch similar decks against one another), and I'd like to align if possible.
Despite the errata, Wisdom is still good and I cracked the code on Power with my Masters deck this year. Courage lags a bit behind those two but (...)
I haven't researched the Vulcans thoroughly yet. But if I ever get aroind to make a Virtual deck (well, I did start with two), they'd be Vulcan and Starfleet.
Can you quickly link to the cards that I highlighted? (Or one, if the others are in the same set and/or are linked from the first.)
I've been telling Charlie we need a Surak of Borg (and an Archer of Borg TBH) to add some risk to playing Vulcans because right now there's very little downside
Yeah! Now we're talkin'! More :borg: ! :thumbsup:
BCSWowbagger wrote:The line must be drawn here! This far, no farther!
:D Fine, fine, but as I said above, I'd have solved it myself. And that was no reason to hide our latinum -- and the latinum that was promised us!! :x :P

Is there really no affiliation in the top 14 that needs to go (or can go) down? If not, I may have to choose one myself! 8)
Or I won't have anything fun to do in this thread any more. :shifty:
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By Armus (Brian Sykes)
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#461091
  1. [Vul]
  2. Image (All-Property)
  3. [SF]
  4. [1E-TNG] [Kli]
  5. [22] Image
  6. [Bor]
  7. [Hir]
  8. [KCA]
  9. [EE] [Fed]
  10. [1E-TNG] Image
  11. [Fed] (All-Property)
  12. [1E-TNG] [NA]
  13. [1E-TNG] [Fed]
  14. [Dom]
  15. [OS] [TE]
  16. Image [Car]
  17. [22] [Kli] (+1)
  18. [1E-DS9] [Fed] [Baj] (-1)
  19. [TE]
  20. [1E-TNG] [SF]
  21. [1E-DS9] [Car]
  22. [Fer] (All-Property) (-1)
  23. [1E-DS9] [Kli] [Fed]
  24. [1E-DQ] [Fed]
  25. [OS] [Fed] [Kli]
  26. [Kaz]
  27. [CF] [Fed] [Kli]
  28. [Kli] (All-Property)
  29. [Vid]
  30. [1E-DQ] [Holo]
  31. [TE] [SF]
  32. [Baj] (All-Property)
  33. [1E-DS9] [Fer] [Dom]
  34. [1E-TNG] [Fer]
  35. [1E-DS9] [Maq]
  36. [1E-DQ] [Maq]
  37. [1E-DS9] [Baj]
  38. [1E-DQ] [Kli]
  39. [1E-TNG] [Maq]
  40. [22] [NA]
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By Ensign Q
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#461092
Suden Kapala wrote:
Ensign Q wrote:besides vulcan get to draw insane amounts of draws and freeplay, im disappointed.
So YOU were playing [Vul] AND disappointed at their strength!? Then it must be as serious as you say.
But I think we can rest assured that if it's this far apart, something will be done at one point or another, to close the gap, or give us even more work in this topic. (As in: having to switch much more around.) :wink:
I played against them ;)

Also im disappointed because when I build my decks (federation) I was really positively surprised that they didn powercreep the fck out of the game and everything seems more or less balanced (the decipher cards pretty much still the strongest)
But what CC pulled off with vulcans is beyond any scope, because its so flawed and so clearly above the average powerlevel that i almost lost hope in the future of this game. :(
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By SudenKapala (Suden Käpälä)
 - Delta Quadrant
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#469782
Y'all know you killed this topic when you took my :twocents: :twocents: :twocents: away from my [Fer] , right?
I was trying to keep this, hanging-by-a-thread, alive!
Afterwards, without latinum to chase, I had nothing left to do here. Nothing to live for.

Just sayin'. :shifty:

I'm not mad at you, or anythin', Wowbagger.

No, I'm not angry. Not really. I'm OK.


Spoilers: [hidden]Thanks for that great meme, Prime. :cheersL: I hope you don't mind that I borrowed it, but I (not) really had some unresolved issues to dump here. :D :P[/hidden]
  1. [Vul]
  2. Image (All-Property)
  3. [SF]
  4. [1E-TNG] [Kli]
  5. [22] Image
  6. [Bor]
  7. [Hir]
  8. [KCA]
  9. [EE] [Fed]
  10. [Fed] (All-Property) (+1)
  11. [1E-TNG] Image (-1)
  12. [1E-TNG] [NA]
  13. [1E-TNG] [Fed]
  14. [Dom]
  15. [OS] [TE]
  16. Image [Car]
  17. [22] [Kli]
  18. [1E-DS9] [Fed] [Baj]
  19. [TE]
  20. [1E-TNG] [SF]
  21. [1E-DS9] [Car]
  22. [Fer] (All-Property)
  23. [1E-DS9] [Kli] [Fed]
  24. [1E-DQ] [Fed]
  25. [OS] [Fed] [Kli]
  26. [Kaz]
  27. [CF] [Fed] [Kli]
  28. [Kli] (All-Property)
  29. [Vid]
  30. [1E-DQ] [Holo]
  31. [TE] [SF]
  32. [Baj] (All-Property)
  33. [1E-DS9] [Fer] [Dom]
  34. [1E-TNG] [Fer]
  35. [1E-DS9] [Maq]
  36. [1E-DQ] [Maq]
  37. [1E-DS9] [Baj]
  38. [1E-DQ] [Kli]
  39. [1E-TNG] [Maq]
  40. [22] [NA]
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By Armus (Brian Sykes)
 - The Center of the Galaxy
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#469790
  1. [Vul]
  2. Image (All-Property)
  3. [SF]
  4. [1E-TNG] [Kli]
  5. [22] Image
  6. [Bor]
  7. [KCA] (+1)
  8. [Hir] (-1)
  9. [EE] [Fed]
  10. [Fed] (All-Property)
  11. [1E-TNG] Image
  12. [1E-TNG] [NA]
  13. [1E-TNG] [Fed]
  14. [Dom]
  15. [OS] [TE]
  16. Image [Car]
  17. [22] [Kli]
  18. [1E-DS9] [Fed] [Baj]
  19. [TE]
  20. [1E-TNG] [SF]
  21. [1E-DS9] [Car]
  22. [Fer] (All-Property)
  23. [1E-DS9] [Kli] [Fed]
  24. [1E-DQ] [Fed]
  25. [OS] [Fed] [Kli]
  26. [Kaz]
  27. [CF] [Fed] [Kli]
  28. [Kli] (All-Property)
  29. [Vid]
  30. [1E-DQ] [Holo]
  31. [TE] [SF]
  32. [Baj] (All-Property)
  33. [1E-DS9] [Fer] [Dom]
  34. [1E-TNG] [Fer]
  35. [1E-DS9] [Maq]
  36. [1E-DQ] [Maq]
  37. [1E-DS9] [Baj]
  38. [1E-DQ] [Kli]
  39. [1E-TNG] [Maq]
  40. [22] [NA]
8 seems low for [KCA] now. With the QI ban there isn't a lot stopping it and it can both solve and battle competently.
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By DarkSabre (Austin Chandler)
 - Delta Quadrant
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#470406
  1. [Vul]
  2. Image (All-Property)
  3. [1E-TNG] [Kli]
  4. [SF] (-1)
  5. [KCA] (+1)
  6. [22] Image
  7. [Bor]
  8. [Hir]
  9. [EE] [Fed]
  10. [Fed] (All-Property)
  11. [1E-TNG] Image
  12. [1E-TNG] [NA]
  13. [1E-TNG] [Fed]
  14. [Dom]
  15. [OS] [TE]
  16. Image [Car]
  17. [22] [Kli]
  18. [1E-DS9] [Fed] [Baj]
  19. [TE]
  20. [1E-TNG] [SF]
  21. [1E-DS9] [Car]
  22. [Fer] (All-Property)
  23. [1E-DS9] [Kli] [Fed]
  24. [1E-DQ] [Fed]
  25. [OS] [Fed] [Kli]
  26. [Kaz]
  27. [CF] [Fed] [Kli]
  28. [Kli] (All-Property)
  29. [Vid]
  30. [1E-DQ] [Holo]
  31. [TE] [SF]
  32. [Baj] (All-Property)
  33. [1E-DS9] [Fer] [Dom]
  34. [1E-TNG] [Fer]
  35. [1E-DS9] [Maq]
  36. [1E-DQ] [Maq]
  37. [1E-DS9] [Baj]
  38. [1E-DQ] [Kli]
  39. [1E-TNG] [Maq]
  40. [22] [NA]
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By BCSWowbagger (James Heaney)
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#470419
  1. [Vul]
  2. Image (All-Property)
  3. [1E-TNG] [Kli]
  4. [SF]
  5. [KCA]
  6. [22] Image
  7. [Bor]
  8. [Hir]
  9. [EE] [Fed]
  10. [Fed] (All-Property)
  11. [1E-TNG] Image
  12. [1E-TNG] [NA]
  13. [1E-TNG] [Fed]
  14. [Dom]
  15. [OS] [TE]
  16. Image [Car]
  17. [22] [Kli]
  18. [1E-DS9] [Fed] [Baj]
  19. [TE]
  20. [1E-TNG] [SF]
  21. [1E-DS9] [Car]
  22. [Fer] (All-Property)
  23. [1E-DS9] [Kli] [Fed]
  24. [1E-DQ] [Fed] (-1)
  25. [OS] [Fed] [Kli] (+1)
  26. [Kaz]
  27. [CF] [Fed] [Kli]
  28. [Kli] (All-Property)
  29. [Vid]
  30. [1E-DQ] [Holo]
  31. [TE] [SF]
  32. [Baj] (All-Property)
  33. [1E-DS9] [Fer] [Dom]
  34. [1E-TNG] [Fer]
  35. [1E-DS9] [Maq]
  36. [1E-DQ] [Maq]
  37. [1E-DS9] [Baj]
  38. [1E-DQ] [Kli]
  39. [1E-TNG] [Maq]
  40. [22] [NA]
Post-The Cage, these guys are going to shoot toward the top. Time to get that ball rolling now that the cards are out.
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By SudenKapala (Suden Käpälä)
 - Delta Quadrant
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#473330
On 2 consecutive days, I had 2 good games with my fun [Car] "deck 7". :o So they get a nudge. :thumbsup:

But where are the "all-property" Cardies? I've Evek, Ocett, Macet and his aides in my deck. (Still, there's a Nor in it too, so I can live with the [1E-DS9] icon, personally.)
  1. [Vul]
  2. Image (All-Property)
  3. [1E-TNG] [Kli]
  4. [SF]
  5. [KCA]
  6. [22] Image
  7. [Bor]
  8. [Hir]
  9. [EE] [Fed]
  10. [Fed] (All-Property)
  11. [1E-TNG] Image
  12. [1E-TNG] [NA]
  13. [1E-TNG] [Fed]
  14. [Dom]
  15. [OS] [TE]
  16. Image [Car]
  17. [22] [Kli]
  18. [1E-DS9] [Fed] [Baj]
  19. [TE]
  20. [1E-DS9] [Car] (+1)
  21. [1E-TNG] [SF] (-1)
  22. [Fer] (All-Property)
  23. [1E-DS9] [Kli] [Fed]
  24. [1E-DQ] [Fed]
  25. [OS] [Fed] [Kli]
  26. [Kaz]
  27. [CF] [Fed] [Kli]
  28. [Kli] (All-Property)
  29. [Vid]
  30. [1E-DQ] [Holo]
  31. [TE] [SF]
  32. [Baj] (All-Property)
  33. [1E-DS9] [Fer] [Dom]
  34. [1E-TNG] [Fer]
  35. [1E-DS9] [Maq]
  36. [1E-DQ] [Maq]
  37. [1E-DS9] [Baj]
  38. [1E-DQ] [Kli]
  39. [1E-TNG] [Maq]
  40. [22] [NA]

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