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By sexecutioner (Niall Matthew)
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#435122
Does Mas'uds ability to download Ceti Eel override its twice per turn play limit?
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By Armus (Brian Sykes)
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#435127
sexecutioner wrote:Does Mas'uds ability to download Ceti Eel override its twice per turn play limit?
I think so because the twice per turn limit is on Ceti Eel itself while Mas'ud's text is separate and distinct.

It's 1e though, so I could totally be wrong on that.
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By Mogh, Son Of Worf (Meinhard S. Rohr)
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#435208
I think it does, but have the problem that I can't really support that claim.
That's why I never bring this, I can easily see a TD ruling Mas'ud to not override Ceti and me having no real case against that. I would love to have an official ruling.
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By Jono (Sean O'Reilly)
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#435215
As a TD I would rule you can do this.

The reason I believe this is correct is because Mas'ud's download places the Ceti Eel directly onto the personnel he stuns. If the Ceti Eel was downloaded to the table (such as with a [DL] icon) then the answer would have been no.

The Ceti Eel twice-per-turn limitation only comes into play when you are using the game text on Ceti Eel to play it on a personnel.
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By sexecutioner (Niall Matthew)
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#435301
Carter should confirm this soon hopefully ;)
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By Latok
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#435303
Related to this question, can you use a ' [SD] download' during the opponent's turn?
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By sexecutioner (Niall Matthew)
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#435304
Latok wrote:Related to this question, can you use a ' [SD] download' during the opponent's turn?
With this one, I'm sure that unless it specifies a response to an opponents action, it would only be during your turn.
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By Armus (Brian Sykes)
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sexecutioner wrote:
Latok wrote:Related to this question, can you use a ' [SD] download' during the opponent's turn?
With this one, I'm sure that unless it specifies a response to an opponents action, it would only be during your turn.
I disagree. This download is a valid response to Mas'ud stunning an adversary. As such I don't think it matters whose turn it is when that happens (though unless your opponent is suicidal and starts a fight with him, I'm not sure how often it would come up).
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By sexecutioner (Niall Matthew)
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Armus wrote:
sexecutioner wrote:
Latok wrote:Related to this question, can you use a ' [SD] download' during the opponent's turn?
With this one, I'm sure that unless it specifies a response to an opponents action, it would only be during your turn.
I disagree. This download is a valid response to Mas'ud stunning an adversary. As such I don't think it matters whose turn it is when that happens (though unless your opponent is suicidal and starts a fight with him, I'm not sure how often it would come up).
Yeah that's what I meant ;)

The 'only during your turn' downloads are stuff like Sunad/Reflection Therapy etc...

Anything that specifies a type of action should be allowed when the action happens, like Anij nulifying an interrupt during the opponents turn.

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