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By MidnightLich (Charlie Plaine)
 - Director of First Edition
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Prophet
#469172
We could have made this card turn people into gangsters. Instead, we chose to make this card represent how the Sigma Iotians were imitative. As others have pointed out, it was likely they would have become whatever was described in the book. Book on Roman history? Boom, their gladiators. Book on WW2? Axis and Allies. Yeah, it was a book about Chicago gangs, so they ended up gangsters, but we wanted the card to be broadly useful.

As it is, you get to imitate whomever lands on your planet. I think it's a cool piece of design. But one thing all designers know is that you can't make everyone happy all of the time. As long as some people like and are excited by this card, I'll call it a way.

There's plenty of room for more cards from "A Piece of the Action." We really only scratch the surface of a lot of stories from TOS. But the game is always hungry for new content, and I plan to keep making the game for decades to come. Gangsters will get more.

-crp
 
By Slayer07
 - Beta Quadrant
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#469173
I see this card from a different perspective; what if the book that had not been left there wasn't about the mob. What if it was a book about Kahless and his legendary life? Then it makes sense that that [NA] would add [Kli] and gain Honor. Or the book is about the Prophets of Bajor? It would make sense to add [Baj] and gain a skill like Anthropology perhaps.

In this instance the book is simply making [NA] personnel [Fed] and adding whatever skill you want to call mob associated be it Treachery, SECURITY, Acquisition, or whatever. In my opinion it's doing it's job. That makes the picture a bit off, something a bit more generic where the title couldn't be seen would have been better then. The card typing itself might seem odd (seems like it should be an Incident or something like that) but given the power level of what it can do to every [NA] character in your deck it make sense it shouldn't be easy to get and use.
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By bhosp
 - Gamma Quadrant
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#469174
MidnightLich wrote:We could have made this card turn people into gangsters. Instead, we chose to make this card represent how the Sigma Iotians were imitative. As others have pointed out, it was likely they would have become whatever was described in the book. Book on Roman history? Boom, their gladiators. Book on WW2? Axis and Allies. Yeah, it was a book about Chicago gangs, so they ended up gangsters, but we wanted the card to be broadly useful.

As it is, you get to imitate whomever lands on your planet. I think it's a cool piece of design. But one thing all designers know is that you can't make everyone happy all of the time. As long as some people like and are excited by this card, I'll call it a way.

There's plenty of room for more cards from "A Piece of the Action." We really only scratch the surface of a lot of stories from TOS. But the game is always hungry for new content, and I plan to keep making the game for decades to come. Gangsters will get more.

-crp
Cool but fix the lore. Unacceptable Paul Mayweather erasure
 
By Slayer07
 - Beta Quadrant
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#469176
Also like to point out that there are only seven [Fed] missions with Acquisition and they all have alternate requirements for people who don't have a version of Nog. Not to mention [NA] personnel can fill the skill gap too.
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By patrick (Patrick Weijers)
 - Beta Quadrant
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#469181
My brother likes to create non-aligned only decks. So this card adds a lot of options for him.

Question, though: Does this card mean that he will no longer have any Mission Specialists? (assuming he doesn't pick the skill that was already on the card)
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By Professor Scott (Mathew McCalpin)
 - Delta Quadrant
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Trailblazer
#469190
patrick wrote:My brother likes to create non-aligned only decks. So this card adds a lot of options for him.

Question, though: Does this card mean that he will no longer have any Mission Specialists? (assuming he doesn't pick the skill that was already on the card)
Correct , any [NA] Mission specialists would now have their normal skill and the added skill making them support specialists. I don't think this would effect any Mission Specialists points previously earned but would prevent any further from being gained.
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By Professor Scott (Mathew McCalpin)
 - Delta Quadrant
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Trailblazer
#469191
sexecutioner wrote:So, brainstorming ideas for this card...

Turn your Equinox guys into [Hir] , give them anthropology for more options with Rituals of the Hunt :)
Exactly my first thought. Although I play AQ Hirogen.
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First Edition Rules Master
By BCSWowbagger (James Heaney)
 - First Edition Rules Master
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Community Contributor
#469206
bhosp wrote:You messed up the lore. It wasn’t a Starfleet vessel, it was Paul Mayweather’s ship.
I guess good minds think alike, because [SF] E.C.S. Horizon was cut from The Cage halfway through testing. I expect it will return someday when people are less sick of [22] .

So you're right that it is Mayweather's ship, just we interpreted that as a Starfleet ship. (And evidently so did Creative.)
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By Takket
 - Delta Quadrant
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#469207
first thing i thought was turning all my [NA] in [Kaz] to dodge assimilation, though that would have to be a "secondary" use for the card in a deck since you aren't stocking an artifact just for that!

so since his is an artifact.......... you are seeding it at a planet (most likely) and trying to complete that planet first. so the value of this card is "what can i do with it at a space mission" because chances are you are on your way to one to complete for a two mission win...

add a bunch of Arch to make Pegasus Search easier?
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By Boffo97 (Dave Hines)
 - Gamma Quadrant
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Retired Moderator
#469209
What made this card kind of odd to me is that the Iotians, who would logically be [NA], became like 20th century gangsters, who would also logically be [NA] on the "Humans from pre-Federation or pre-Starfleet eras aren't those affiliations" precedent.

So in the actual episode, no affiliation change occurs.
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By BCSWowbagger (James Heaney)
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#469212
Boffo97 wrote:What made this card kind of odd to me is that the Iotians, who would logically be [NA], became like 20th century gangsters, who would also logically be [NA] on the "Humans from pre-Federation or pre-Starfleet eras aren't those affiliations" precedent.

So in the actual episode, no affiliation change occurs.
You can totally choose [NA] as the affiliation if you like. But if they'd left behind, say, the Starfleet Training Manual, presumably they'd have all ended up [SF] .
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By bhosp
 - Gamma Quadrant
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#469226
BCSWowbagger wrote:
bhosp wrote:You messed up the lore. It wasn’t a Starfleet vessel, it was Paul Mayweather’s ship.
I guess good minds think alike, because [SF] E.C.S. Horizon was cut from The Cage halfway through testing. I expect it will return someday when people are less sick of [22] .

So you're right that it is Mayweather's ship, just we interpreted that as a Starfleet ship. (And evidently so did Creative.)
We made it Starfleet affiliation in 2E, yeah but it was privately owned.
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By bhosp
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#469227
Takket wrote:first thing i thought was turning all my [NA] in [Kaz] to dodge assimilation, though that would have to be a "secondary" use for the card in a deck since you aren't stocking an artifact just for that!

so since his is an artifact.......... you are seeding it at a planet (most likely) and trying to complete that planet first. so the value of this card is "what can i do with it at a space mission" because chances are you are on your way to one to complete for a two mission win...

add a bunch of Arch to make Pegasus Search easier?
A whole new world of Dominion War Efforts support personnel gets opened up, for one thing.
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By SudenKapala (Suden Käpälä)
 - Delta Quadrant
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#469230
Discovery suxs wrote:You got to remember TOS era they were making star trek. I mean watch season 1 then watch season 3 then watch the warp 10 voyager episode. I still remember enterprise going warp 14 in first season. Scotty saying she is coming apart captain. So that enterprise was technically faster than any other ship in star trek period. They started reigning it in later. So anything was possible when it comes to ship names.
The warp scale was recalibrated / redefined at least once (to have warp 10 be unattainable); this happened sometime between TOS & TNG. There's canon explanations /exposition for that.

Other than that, you and other comments (e.g. about Earth Space Probe Agency -- which was the organisation Enterprise flew for, initially, in TOS -- before Starfleet was invented and named in later episodes) are certainly not wrong -- in the beginning, they were really searching for their stride, and made a lot of continuity errors and on-the-fly decisions that were laterforgotten or altered. I guess it was a sign of the times, and/or just the beginning of the show.

So while that specific issue has a canon explanation (or retcon), many others don't... But obviously, pop culture (and we) have forgiven the show for that. 8)
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By SudenKapala (Suden Käpälä)
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#469231
bhosp wrote:A whole new world of Dominion War Efforts support personnel gets opened up, for one thing.
Ooh, yeah, hadn't though of that yet, even. That's also a big game changer! :o :? All Mission Specalists in the game now downloadable (with 2nd skill) for the glory of the Founders... I wonder if that was intentional? 8)

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