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By Boffo97 (Dave Hines)
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#472161
AllenGould wrote:
Discovery suxs wrote: We all know the premire romulan holograms should not be holograms. I would not care if they been replaced but nope they have not be replaced yet.
Mostly because they're not doing any harm in gameplay. Sure, we'd never do them that way today, but that's not uncommon in PAQ cards. But two background characters from one episode? No-one would even *care* about these two if they weren't "wrong". :)
Just to argue, 2 ❖ [1E-AU] [1E-TNG] [Rom]s would be more useful to certain deck concepts than 2 ❖ [Holo] [Rom]s are.

But that just updates "no one would care" to "very few would care... maybe... sometimes..." ;)
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Boffo97 wrote:
AllenGould wrote:
Discovery suxs wrote: We all know the premire romulan holograms should not be holograms. I would not care if they been replaced but nope they have not be replaced yet.
Mostly because they're not doing any harm in gameplay. Sure, we'd never do them that way today, but that's not uncommon in PAQ cards. But two background characters from one episode? No-one would even *care* about these two if they weren't "wrong". :)
Just to argue, 2 ❖ [1E-AU] [1E-TNG] [Rom]s would be more useful to certain deck concepts than 2 ❖ [Holo] [Rom]s are.

But that just updates "no one would care" to "very few would care... maybe... sometimes..." ;)
Nailed it. :thumbsup: [Holo] take alot more setup than seeding a [1E-AU] doorway. Astrophysics romulan mission specialist is important since there is only 1 in the game.
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Discovery rox wrote:i care about tomek being wrong, wasnt he the world champion?
Dave Bowling was the world champion, not Michael Bofshever (the actor who portrayed the character we named "Tomek")

Which.. reading the MemAlpha page for these two, I don't really see how [1E-AU] is a better fit. They're not from an alternate dimension, they're aliens impersonating Romulans.
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AllenGould wrote:
Discovery rox wrote:i care about tomek being wrong, wasnt he the world champion?
Dave Bowling was the world champion, not Michael Bofshever (the actor who portrayed the character we named "Tomek")

Which.. reading the MemAlpha page for these two, I don't really see how [1E-AU] is a better fit. They're not from an alternate dimension, they're aliens impersonating Romulans.

Boffo has stated already. [1E-AU] meant usual situation in PAQ block.


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Those 2 cards have the same image. Hiram roth image is basically the same image too.

https://www.trekcc.org/1e/index.php?mod ... ardID=5278

Just a full image is all. Where the others are a cropped version.
 
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au can also mean illusions, which tomek is because hes not a romulan, hes an alien in disguise. i generally dont like going back and changing old cards but tomek would be an exception because being hologram makes no sense at all and right now hes pretty much useless.

anyway back on topic, hiram roth is a different image. urgent warning and executive order use the picture of him from the transmission at the beggining of the movie, hiram roth is a picture of him at the end of the movie in front of the star trek council. the lighting and expression is all different so i dont feel like rolling my eyes when i see it the way i do when i see urgent warning and executive orders.

and you cant really pick a different image for hiram roth there isnt many pictures of the personnel to choose from, hes supposed to be the subject of the picture. theres more freedom when you choose something to represent urgent warnings or executive orders so thats why i roll my eyes because they didnt need to reuse the same picture.
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By Boffo97 (Dave Hines)
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Discovery suxs wrote:Boffo has stated already. [1E-AU] meant usual situation in PAQ block.
That argument wouldn't work for this situation since that was the justification (or unusual situation was) for making Major Rakal and Stefan DeSeve [1E-AU] in the first place and that justification was pretty much abandoned after those two cards.

Also, the aliens in question are from outside this time continuum according to the episode. That certainly sounds [1E-AU] to me.
 
By Dunnagh (Andreas Micheel)
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Ensign Q wrote:
Discovery suxs wrote:If star trek has only a few reused pictures. I say that is a A+ all the way. MTG has reused everything so many times.
what? not a single art is duplicated
Yeah. It´s the same card, only in different editions.
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By Tim (Tim Davidson)
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AllenGould wrote:
Discovery rox wrote:i care about tomek being wrong, wasnt he the world champion?
Dave Bowling was the world champion, not Michael Bofshever (the actor who portrayed the character we named "Tomek")

Which.. reading the MemAlpha page for these two, I don't really see how [1E-AU] is a better fit. They're not from an alternate dimension, they're aliens impersonating Romulans.
They were aliens from a blackhole, outside our normal time and space.

My 0.02, seemed like those aliens' Romulan bodies were closer to "projections" than different forms or surgical modifications. I've always thought [Holo] made perfect sense for them.
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