[Takket]

Just want to make sure I understand how to use Study Divergent History.... can I drop two mission specialists in the opposite quadrant with AMS (mirror MSs to alpha or vice versa), then just play two people native to the quadrant, get them together with the MSs at the same location as SDH.... and i'm good to go right?

Selecting a new skill once per turn with Classic Communicator is NOT a valid response, so I cannot do it during a dilemma encounter, correct? BUT, if I get CC using a during the encounter, then I CAN select the skill when it comes into play. Correct?

What happens if my opponent seeds "regular" Bajoran wormhole before I seed Bajoran wormhole: Mirror Universe? I cannot download my BWs out of my deck, so are they stuck there taking up space? Any suggestions for dealing with this? I'd have to have two useless cards stuck in my draw deck.

[Armus]

Just want to make sure I understand how to use Study Divergent History.... can I drop two mission specialists in the opposite quadrant with AMS (mirror MSs to alpha or vice versa), then just play two people native to the quadrant, get them together with the MSs at the same location as SDH.... and i'm good to go right?

Selecting a new skill once per turn with Classic Communicator is NOT a valid response, so I cannot do it during a dilemma encounter, correct? BUT, if I get CC using a during the encounter, then I CAN select the skill when it comes into play. Correct?

What happens if my opponent seeds "regular" Bajoran wormhole before I seed Bajoran wormhole: Mirror Universe? I cannot download my BWs out of my deck, so are they stuck there taking up space? Any suggestions for dealing with this? I'd have to have two useless cards stuck in my draw deck.

Correct.

Correct.

If you're seeding BW:MU, I'm confused as to why. The First Stable Wormhole is the obvious correct answer and totally short circuits your concern.

[Takket]

Just want to make sure I understand how to use Study Divergent History.... can I drop two mission specialists in the opposite quadrant with AMS (mirror MSs to alpha or vice versa), then just play two people native to the quadrant, get them together with the MSs at the same location as SDH.... and i'm good to go right?

Selecting a new skill once per turn with Classic Communicator is NOT a valid response, so I cannot do it during a dilemma encounter, correct? BUT, if I get CC using a during the encounter, then I CAN select the skill when it comes into play. Correct?

What happens if my opponent seeds "regular" Bajoran wormhole before I seed Bajoran wormhole: Mirror Universe? I cannot download my BWs out of my deck, so are they stuck there taking up space? Any suggestions for dealing with this? I'd have to have two useless cards stuck in my draw deck.

Correct.

Correct.

If you're seeding BW:MU, I'm confused as to why. The First Stable Wormhole is the obvious correct answer and totally short circuits your concern.

ah nice, i think i shied away from FSW because i had to seed in doorway phase instead of seeding my BWs after the spaceline was set.... but i need to read cards closer lol because that DL of Nav schematic is the real treat here!!!!!!! Sold! Thanks

[Discovery suxs]

You could also just drop 1 from different quadrants with asm. Boom you have sdh done. It is legal in the game. The best combo for sdh is the intendent all day

You can download her to mirror terok nor to her site. You can stop her and another person to draw a card. You put sdh on her site. You be drawing 2 cards by the second turn easy. You can also use crossover initiation too. There is a mission you get that crossover for free in the seed phase. You can also defend homeworld people too. I hope that helps you.

[Discovery suxs]

In says in the glossary mirror universe Bojarian wormhore must be played first in the game. So your opponent can't screw you over.

[PantsOfTheTalShiar]

Just want to make sure I understand how to use Study Divergent History.... can I drop two mission specialists in the opposite quadrant with AMS (mirror MSs to alpha or vice versa), then just play two people native to the quadrant, get them together with the MSs at the same location as SDH.... and i'm good to go right?

Selecting a new skill once per turn with Classic Communicator is NOT a valid response, so I cannot do it during a dilemma encounter, correct? BUT, if I get CC using a during the encounter, then I CAN select the skill when it comes into play. Correct?

What happens if my opponent seeds "regular" Bajoran wormhole before I seed Bajoran wormhole: Mirror Universe? I cannot download my BWs out of my deck, so are they stuck there taking up space? Any suggestions for dealing with this? I'd have to have two useless cards stuck in my draw deck.

Correct.

Correct.

If you're seeding BW:MU, I'm confused as to why. The First Stable Wormhole is the obvious correct answer and totally short circuits your concern.

TFSW is an obvious solution, but it does come with the trade-off that you lose control of where the wormholes go. When playing (downloading) Bajoran Wormhole, if the Bajor region doesn't exist on the spaceline, you get to insert it anywhere. I can imagine decks that are willing to spend 1 tent slot and risk 1 dead draw in order to get more control over the spaceline.

[BCSWowbagger]

What happens if my opponent seeds "regular" Bajoran wormhole before I seed Bajoran wormhole: Mirror Universe? I cannot download my BWs out of my deck, so are they stuck there taking up space? Any suggestions for dealing with this? I'd have to have two useless cards stuck in my draw deck.

Since nobody has directly answered the question yet: yes, you'd have two dead draws in that circumstance.

And, to Jason's point: I have personally used an Ultimatum in a non-Dominion deck specifically to increase my control over wormhole placement. So, yeah, there are times when it's worth it.

[Discovery suxs]

What happens if my opponent seeds "regular" Bajoran wormhole before I seed Bajoran wormhole: Mirror Universe? I cannot download my BWs out of my deck, so are they stuck there taking up space? Any suggestions for dealing with this? I'd have to have two useless cards stuck in my draw deck.

Since nobody has directly answered the question yet: yes, you'd have two dead draws in that circumstance.

And, to Jason's point: I have personally used an Ultimatum in a non-Dominion deck specifically to increase my control over wormhole placement. So, yeah, there are times when it's worth it.

I did answer the question. Opponent can't play regular Bajoron wormhole before you play mirror universe Bojarian wormhole. It is right in the glossary.


From the glossary

Bajoran Wormhole: Mirror Universe –When you seed or play this doorway, you are not required to download Bajoran Wormhole, but if you fail to do so, the download opportunity is lost. Only one player may download Bajoran Wormhole; the player who seeded or played Bajoran Wormhole: Mirror Universe gets the first opportunity to do so.

[JeBuS]

I did answer the question. Opponent can't play regular Bajoron wormhole before you play mirror universe Bojarian wormhole. It is right in the glossary.

You misinterpreted the glossary entry. Your opponent may seed BW without seeding BWMU. Then you can seed your copy of BWMU. But any player who wants to seed BWMU and use its text to download BW must do that download immediately. With the caveat that if BW is already out, you can't seed more copies.

Remember, the glossary specifies that a player must have seeded or played BWMU. If it's still in your seed deck, you haven't done either.

[Discovery suxs]

I did answer the question. Opponent can't play regular Bajoron wormhole before you play mirror universe Bojarian wormhole. It is right in the glossary.

You misinterpreted the glossary entry. Your opponent may seed BW without seeding BWMU. Then you can seed your copy of BWMU. But any player who wants to seed BWMU and use its text to download BW must do that download immediately. With the caveat that if BW is already out, you can't seed more copies.

Remember, the glossary specifies that a player must have seeded or played BWMU. If it's still in your seed deck, you haven't done either.

Rules should be crystal clear is all I can say about it. Star trek 1e is full of stereo instructions.

[JeBuS]

I did answer the question. Opponent can't play regular Bajoron wormhole before you play mirror universe Bojarian wormhole. It is right in the glossary.

You misinterpreted the glossary entry. Your opponent may seed BW without seeding BWMU. Then you can seed your copy of BWMU. But any player who wants to seed BWMU and use its text to download BW must do that download immediately. With the caveat that if BW is already out, you can't seed more copies.

Remember, the glossary specifies that a player must have seeded or played BWMU. If it's still in your seed deck, you haven't done either.

Rules should be crystal clear is all I can say about it. Star trek 1e is full of stereo instructions.

I don't know how much more clear it can be while imparting the necessary information. You simply misinterpreted it.

[Discovery suxs]

Rules are rules. The whole part about mirror universe Bojarian wormhole is pointless if your opponent can play a bajoran wormhole before you. It clearly says mirror universe gets to go first for the download of bajoran wormhole. So how exactly did I not understand it.

[JeBuS]

Rules are rules. The whole part about mirror universe Bojarian wormhole is pointless if your opponent can play a bajoran wormhole before you. It clearly says mirror universe gets to go first for the download of bajoran wormhole. So how exactly did I not understand it.

It clearly states that the player who seeded or played BWMU gets one opportunity to download BW.

It clearly does not state that a person who stocked BWMU in their deck is automatically given the first opportunity to seed or play it.

[9of24]

Rules are rules. The whole part about mirror universe Bojarian wormhole is pointless if your opponent can play a bajoran wormhole before you. It clearly says mirror universe gets to go first for the download of bajoran wormhole. So how exactly did I not understand it.

Did you read Bajoran Wormhole: Mirror Universe in conjunction with the glossary entry for it or just the glossary entry? I suspect this may be where your confusion is coming from. The portion of the glossary entry you quoted and, in particular, emphasized is a clarification to this line of game text from BW: MU.

Inserts into spaceline to create a Bajor Region location (span 1); any player may download Bajoran Wormhole.

So when the glossary entry for BW: MU says:

Bajoran Wormhole: Mirror Universe –When you seed or play this doorway, you are not required to download Bajoran Wormhole, but if you fail to do so, the download opportunity is lost. Only one player may download Bajoran Wormhole; the player who seeded or played Bajoran Wormhole: Mirror Universe gets the first opportunity to do so.

Its clarifying that the player who seeds/plays BW: MU is the player that gets the first opportunity to use the "any player may download Bajoran Wormhole" text. If they choose not to, their opponent then has the opportunity to do so.