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Yesterday's Enterprise (TNG) It's time for the rest of the 'Alternates', more crew for the USS Enterprise-C (maybe even a new version of that), even a possibility for the enlarged K'Vort Battlecruiser for TNG the Klingons.

Siege of Ar558 (DS9) Just an amazing episode that's barely been touched

Year of Hell (Voy) Krenim are long overdue. Most of the battered AU voyager crew could be dual personnel. Seven and Tuvok, Harry and Bellona, Neelix and the Doctor (just have to put The Doctor's holo-icon in his skill list so in only applies to him.), Tom and Chakotay, Janeway gets her own card.

Klingon Civil War story arch (TNG)

Bajoran Civil War Story Arch (DS9) A lot was done for this, but I think there's always room for more.

Best of Both Worlds story arch (TNG/DS9) The TNG logo cards to assimilate a counterpart, new drones, maybe chuck in a TNG Borg scout ship for the Hugh story arch. New equipment cards for the Borg like arm attachments, eye pieces, incubation chamber. USS Saratoga and her crew plus some of the ships from that battle sequence, improved Shelby, Data and Locutus dual personnel card or at least a non-aligned Locutus, Captain Riker. Introduce the ability to recover an assimilated character.

The Killing Game (Voy) lots of [Hir] versions of the Voyager crew, all kinds of new holo-characters, [Hir] Voyager, Klingon Neelix...

ST Enerprise: Xindii Affiliation (I was thinking a yellow-green boarder, or even mint green)
 
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#512298
Great question!


For TNG, I'd say I'd like to see something done with the PAQ-era [1E-AU] folks from the 'lost era' -- the Ent-C folks, Ian Andrew Troi, Jack Crusher... maybe some sort of [WC] to lump them in with the generations AU folks to form a subfaction?


For VOY, I'd vote for Timeless.
Geordi & the Challenger, an Incident/Objective, new versions of Chakotay, Kim & Delta Flyer + Chakotay's chick. Add in a couple nice dilemmas and you've got a cool little set.


DS9 - I agree with others, and I've long advocated for something out of Apocalypse Rising. Pahash and Kodrak (O'Brien/Odo), the Klingon HQ... surely there's a good opportunity for a Klingon [RC] out of that that's neither the Combined Task Force (that's for Fed/Kli alliance) nor Mirror. That'd be sweet! Though I disagree with others that the DS9 Klingons aren't good (they are!) but nonetheless it would be great to see.

Might even be a good opportunity to fill a little gap in their roster, to get some ❖ ships for them, since they're not able to use Call For Reinforcements right now in [1E-DS9] decks... since their only universal ships are mirror. That's... weird. Maybe a modern version of the k't'inga? We see a lot of them, but haven't got one in 1E outside of the movies or the 2 sleeper ships.
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By BCSWowbagger (James Heaney)
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I have vague impulses that I want to do more for

[1E-DS9] [1E-Rom] (Derna was such a promising start, but there's precious little on-screen material left)
and
[1E-DS9] [1E-Fer] (but some of the best Ferengi episodes have already been mined)

...but, since I'm having trouble thinking of specific episodes, maybe this boutique isn't the right vehicle for that.

(I definitely had no ulterior motive for writing this specific post.)
 
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BCSWowbagger wrote:I have vague impulses that I want to do more for

[1E-DS9] [1E-Rom] (Derna was such a promising start, but there's precious little on-screen material left)
and
[1E-DS9] [1E-Fer] (but some of the best Ferengi episodes have already been mined)

...but, since I'm having trouble thinking of specific episodes, maybe this boutique isn't the right vehicle for that.

(I definitely had no ulterior motive for writing this specific post.)

Well, because I want to encourage some more love for my [1E-DS9] Romulans, I'd offer:
http://ds9.trekcore.com/gallery/albums/ ... es_166.jpg
http://ds9.trekcore.com/gallery/albums/ ... es_374.jpg
http://ds9.trekcore.com/gallery/albums/ ... es_361.jpg
http://ds9.trekcore.com/gallery/albums/ ... st_323.jpg
http://ds9.trekcore.com/gallery/albums/ ... se_489.jpg
http://ds9.trekcore.com/gallery/albums/ ... se_492.jpg
http://ds9.trekcore.com/gallery/albums/ ... ry_117.jpg


I certainly agree, that there aren't many opportunities for them, these are pretty much the only guys I can think of that could get a clear shot of them. But those should be enough for a handful more people that would be what they'd need to flesh them out a bit more. Hopefully there's a chance of getting a nice pic of that last one getting shoved out of the way by Kira as she storms out :)

But let's also not forget that there are at least 2 ships that can be made as well -- Rovaran the 1EBC warbird, and Ruwon alludes to a Kilhra.
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By SudenKapala (Suden Käpälä)
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JasonRed3 wrote:The Siege of AR-558 seems like a good episode for some fighty fighty stuff :)
And some great character( moment)s!
enabrantain wrote:Year of Hell (Voy) Krenim are long overdue. Most of the battered AU voyager crew could be dual personnel. Seven and Tuvok, Harry and Bellona, Neelix and the Doctor (just have to put The Doctor's holo-icon in his skill list so in only applies to him.), Tom and Chakotay, Janeway gets her own card.)
Why would you prefer dual cards? [Fed] is already very strong, personnel-wise? Does [1E-DQ] [Fed] specifically need it?
Best of Both Worlds story arch (TNG/DS9) The TNG logo cards to assimilate a counterpart, new drones, maybe chuck in a TNG Borg scout ship for the Hugh story arch. New equipment cards for the Borg like arm attachments, eye pieces, incubation chamber. USS Saratoga and her crew plus some of the ships from that battle sequence, improved Shelby, Data and Locutus dual personnel card or at least a non-aligned Locutus, Captain Riker. Introduce the ability to recover an assimilated character.
There is very little in the above that I'm not loving. :thumbsup: :thumbsup: :borg:
ST Enerprise: Xindii Affiliation (I was thinking a yellow-green boarder, or even mint green)
Between [Vul] [NA] [NA] there's enough on the yellow area of the spectrum. But I really like the mint colour idea a lot! The border colours could really use that distinctive addition. Mint can easily be chosen to stay far away from the blue and from the green ranges (which are also already represented). :thumbsup:
princedetenebres wrote:DS9 - I agree with others, and I've long advocated for something out of Apocalypse Rising. Pahash and Kodrak (O'Brien/Odo), the Klingon HQ... surely there's a good opportunity for a Klingon [RC] out of that that's neither the Combined Task Force (that's for Fed/Kli alliance) nor Mirror. That'd be sweet! Though I disagree with others that the DS9 Klingons aren't good (they are!) but nonetheless it would be great to see.
That is something I have been waiting for for a long time. A canon [Kli] space facility. But I wondered what it should do, game-wise; what mechanic it can represent. Do you have ideas for that?
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Enabran wrote:
princedetenebres wrote:
Well, because I want to encourage some more love for my [1E-DS9] Romulans, I'd offer:
http://ds9.trekcore.com/gallery/albums/ ... es_166.jpg
http://ds9.trekcore.com/gallery/albums/ ... es_374.jpg
http://ds9.trekcore.com/gallery/albums/ ... es_361.jpg
http://ds9.trekcore.com/gallery/albums/ ... st_323.jpg
http://ds9.trekcore.com/gallery/albums/ ... se_489.jpg
http://ds9.trekcore.com/gallery/albums/ ... se_492.jpg
http://ds9.trekcore.com/gallery/albums/ ... ry_117.jpg
Oh my god, please no. That will give us 7 more cards with crappy blurred images. We already have enough of them.
Respectfully, did you look at these? Because you're certainly right that at least a couple of the images there are a bit blurry, but that's definitely not the case with all of them -- and moreover, there's no reason that it has to be specifically that frame linked that needed to be used. It was just a suggestion of a source for approximately where they could be pulled.

Forgive me, I don't mean to be rude, but I find such exaggeration to be the opposite of persuasive, and while what you say could be fair for a couple of the images, no doubt, the others, not so much, your reaction strikes me as well, something of an overreaction.
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By JasonRed3 (Jason Robinette)
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princedetenebres wrote:
Enabran wrote:
princedetenebres wrote:
Well, because I want to encourage some more love for my [1E-DS9] Romulans, I'd offer:
http://ds9.trekcore.com/gallery/albums/ ... es_166.jpg
http://ds9.trekcore.com/gallery/albums/ ... es_374.jpg
http://ds9.trekcore.com/gallery/albums/ ... es_361.jpg
http://ds9.trekcore.com/gallery/albums/ ... st_323.jpg
http://ds9.trekcore.com/gallery/albums/ ... se_489.jpg
http://ds9.trekcore.com/gallery/albums/ ... se_492.jpg
http://ds9.trekcore.com/gallery/albums/ ... ry_117.jpg
Oh my god, please no. That will give us 7 more cards with crappy blurred images. We already have enough of them.
Respectfully, did you look at these? Because you're certainly right that at least a couple of the images there are a bit blurry, but that's definitely not the case with all of them -- and moreover, there's no reason that it has to be specifically that frame linked that needed to be used. It was just a suggestion of a source for approximately where they could be pulled.

Forgive me, I don't mean to be rude, but I find such exaggeration to be the opposite of persuasive, and while what you say could be fair for a couple of the images, no doubt, the others, not so much, your reaction strikes me as well, something of an overreaction.
Considering that the HD upgrade to TNG hasn't (and may never) been done to DS9... we're kind of stuck with blurry images for the time being.

And yeah.... I agree... most of these images are pretty blurry for a card. :(
 
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JasonRed3 wrote:
Considering that the HD upgrade to TNG hasn't (and may never) been done to DS9... we're kind of stuck with blurry images for the time being.

And yeah.... I agree... most of these images are pretty blurry for a card. :(
Agreed. Why is it that DS9 didn't get an HD/blu-ray treatment? Is it definitely not happening? Did the TNG ones just not sell well enough?

I kinda hoped Picard would do well enough that Paramount might want to cash in.

But anyway, again, this isn't necessarily the image that need be used -- obviously one can look a few frames in either direction to find a better image.

The Romulan that's a hologram from IAESL is certainly fine for grabbing an image. I'm sure the dude between Bashir & Koval can get an image that's suitable for a card. And so on... I mean, compared to a lot of the other images that we've seen used, these are better than what we've got on many existing ones (I'm thinking of the Remans in particular, or the 22nd century Romulan guys).

Obviously I wasn't suggesting ALL of them be used and that exact frame, just merely that the DS9 romulans could use a couple more people to round them out and here is a place to start looking...
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princedetenebres wrote:
JasonRed3 wrote:
Considering that the HD upgrade to TNG hasn't (and may never) been done to DS9... we're kind of stuck with blurry images for the time being.

And yeah.... I agree... most of these images are pretty blurry for a card. :(
Agreed. Why is it that DS9 didn't get an HD/blu-ray treatment? Is it definitely not happening? Did the TNG ones just not sell well enough?

I kinda hoped Picard would do well enough that Paramount might want to cash in.

But anyway, again, this isn't necessarily the image that need be used -- obviously one can look a few frames in either direction to find a better image.

The Romulan that's a hologram from IAESL is certainly fine for grabbing an image. I'm sure the dude between Bashir & Koval can get an image that's suitable for a card. And so on... I mean, compared to a lot of the other images that we've seen used, these are better than what we've got on many existing ones (I'm thinking of the Remans in particular, or the 22nd century Romulan guys).

Obviously I wasn't suggesting ALL of them be used and that exact frame, just merely that the DS9 romulans could use a couple more people to round them out and here is a place to start looking...
From a website:
One of the reasons why DS9 never got remastered is because its CGI effects were all done for video, at low resolution, after the 35mm film transfer. All of the visual effects of the show would have to be redone as a result. Paramount undertook this herculean process for Star Trek: The Next Generation, but it didn’t make back anything like what it spent on the project. DS9 and Voyager represent an even heavier lift. The boxed sets didn’t sell as well as Paramount had hoped they would, and as a result, conversions of shows like DS9 and Voyager are a dead-letter wish.
There are some efforts to do this by fans, etc... and they are better than nothing, but...

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=hInQkqmjn48

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princedetenebres wrote:Oh, good to know -- bummer though, but thanks for the info/link.
What I think I missed in the article is that the number of digi-VFX shots in VOY and DS9 is far greater than that of TNG, which is also a contributing factor to the reluctance.
That's been known for a while, if you know where to look (I didn't, and was told by a friend) -- but I, too, kept hoping.
What was new in that text for me was the disappointing returns generated. So... hope crushed. :x

By the way, I thought half of those images aren't so much blurry as they are grainy -- due to low lighting conditions. (Logically; natural [Rom] habitat is shady.) I wouldn't mind cards of those (especially the first). But with the others, the contrast and brightness need to be cranked up, then. Some would be(come) too "blurry", yes, IMO.

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