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By Ensign Q
 - Delta Quadrant
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#548320
over the years the cc removed many npe strats from the game, even weaker ones.

so i wonder how is outgunned still a card? in combination with space amoeba and shield reduction it offers little to no counterplay to avoid getting captured /commandeered. which is worse than destroying the ship.
it also ignores both the battle bridge and ablative armor
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By winterflames (Derek Marlar)
 - Delta Quadrant
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#548346
Ensign Q wrote: Sun Mar 28, 2021 6:23 am over the years the cc removed many npe strats from the game, even weaker ones.

so i wonder how is outgunned still a card? in combination with space amoeba and shield reduction it offers little to no counterplay to avoid getting captured /commandeered. which is worse than destroying the ship.
it also ignores both the battle bridge and ablative armor
Have you considered battle prevention?
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By Ensign Q
 - Delta Quadrant
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#548353
winterflames wrote: Sun Mar 28, 2021 11:56 am
Ensign Q wrote: Sun Mar 28, 2021 6:23 am over the years the cc removed many npe strats from the game, even weaker ones.

so i wonder how is outgunned still a card? in combination with space amoeba and shield reduction it offers little to no counterplay to avoid getting captured /commandeered. which is worse than destroying the ship.
it also ignores both the battle bridge and ablative armor
Have you considered battle prevention?
like? stocking random interrupts in the deck is not a useful counterplay.
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By sexecutioner (Niall Matthew)
 - Gamma Quadrant
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1E World Runner-Up 2023
1E European Continental Semi-Finalist 2023
1E British National Second Runner-Up 2023
#548470
*sigh*

If I'm going to continually face TNG Borg with the same players, then of course I'm going add tech to my deck to combat them.

Just like I added Scan Cycle Check to avoid DNA Security Scan when TOS Klingons first came out.
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By Ensign Q
 - Delta Quadrant
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#548472
poor queen is a meta choice, thats fine. the first time you outgunned me was vs kca though.
card is too silly. it may have been fine up until space amoeba got released.
but im not jon, so nobody cares i guess.

you might prevent outgunned with quinn or Asteroid Sanctuary

the same is true for Anti-Time Anomaly (quinn and kevin)

one is banned, the other isnt. why?
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 - Gamma Quadrant
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Continuing Committee Member - Retired
#548481
Very Creative Niall. :thumbsup: :thumbsup:

10 for creativity
7 for choice of affiliation to pair it with
9 for tournament result
10 for a Hossiest play of the day

[Tac]
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By sexecutioner (Niall Matthew)
 - Gamma Quadrant
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1E World Runner-Up 2023
1E European Continental Semi-Finalist 2023
1E British National Second Runner-Up 2023
#548483
Thanks, though not entirely my idea.

Julius gets credit for making the dilemma combo of Disgraceful Assault / Amoeba / Nelvana Trap and hitting me with inspiration.

I took my TOS Romulan deck, switch the Tactics over to Target Shields, and added Outgunned :D
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By Ensign Q
 - Delta Quadrant
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#548493
fine, im out of the smaller tournies then. have fun you three :cheersL:
so much for non cutthroat events.
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 - Gamma Quadrant
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Continuing Committee Member - Retired
#548498
sexecutioner wrote: Mon Mar 29, 2021 9:25 am Thanks, though not entirely my idea.

Julius gets credit for making the dilemma combo of Disgraceful Assault / Amoeba / Nelvana Trap and hitting me with inspiration.

I took my TOS Romulan deck, switch the Tactics over to Target Shields, and added Outgunned :D
The amoeba + target shields combo is exactly the thing I'm referring to so again - congrats to you for cleverness.

There is still so much to explore and find in this game.
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By MidnightLich (Charlie Plaine)
 - Director of First Edition
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Prophet
#548513
Ensign Q wrote: Sun Mar 28, 2021 6:23 am over the years the cc removed many npe strats from the game, even weaker ones.

so i wonder how is outgunned still a card? in combination with space amoeba and shield reduction it offers little to no counterplay to avoid getting captured /commandeered. which is worse than destroying the ship.
it also ignores both the battle bridge and ablative armor
You should have played against it before the errata. That was insane!

Also I feel like I'm missing a lot of context here.

-crp
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By MidnightLich (Charlie Plaine)
 - Director of First Edition
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Prophet
#548519
Ensign Q wrote: Mon Mar 29, 2021 7:52 ambut im not jon, so nobody cares i guess.
This is not true. Everyone's opinion counts. Every problem gets looked at. And action, if necessary, gets taken no matter who happens to be involved.

-crp
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By Ensign Q
 - Delta Quadrant
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#548522
MidnightLich wrote: Mon Mar 29, 2021 11:49 am
Ensign Q wrote: Mon Mar 29, 2021 7:52 ambut im not jon, so nobody cares i guess.
This is not true. Everyone's opinion counts. Every problem gets looked at. And action, if necessary, gets taken no matter who happens to be involved.

-crp
yeah, i reached out to balance, lets see what happens.
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By Ensign Q
 - Delta Quadrant
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#548523
karmicspark wrote: Mon Mar 29, 2021 10:31 am
Ensign Q wrote: Mon Mar 29, 2021 9:45 am fine, im out of the smaller tournies then. have fun you three :cheersL:
so much for non cutthroat events.
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yeah that might be true, but i get told in the one topic the small events are for fun and being competitive the wrong place, meanwhile niall builds decks to lock out opponents from the game he know he faces. so its definitely not a place to play the decks i like.
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By monty42 (Benjamin Liebich)
 - Delta Quadrant
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Continuing Committee Member - Retired
2E World Quarter-Finalist 2023
Chancellor
2E European Continental Runner-Up 2023
2E German National Champion 2022
#548531
Ensign Q wrote: Mon Mar 29, 2021 9:45 am fine, im out of the smaller tournies then. have fun you three :cheersL:
so much for non cutthroat events.
I support rage quitting. :thumbsup:
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