Armus wrote: ↑Sun Aug 29, 2021 7:59 pm
BCSWowbagger wrote: ↑Sun Aug 29, 2021 7:53 pm
Besides, Decipher was right: you get a card, in a pack or in a printer, you should be allowed to play with it. It feels bad to have a card you like that is gone indefinitely-- much less forever. Even if you have to play it with errata, that's better than not playing with it at all ever.
Given some of the more notorious errata, I'm gonna go ahead and disagree with this one. Hard.
How so?
I agree that errata can fail. I'm an advocate for re-errata'ing failed errata to be less bad.
Q is the first item on my list (and I assume everyone's list).
But even a highly attenuated card that you are legally allowed to play seems like less of a feel-bad than an awesome card you're not allowed to play at all. The Q errata makes me sad. The Red Alert! ban makes me
much sadder.
Rachmaninoff wrote:I get the argument that a card on the ban list isn't hurting anything, especially in the virtual era, so what's the harm of leaving things there indefinitely? (I'll point out in passing that the same argument can be made about making a broken link that's never fixed -- it's not hurting anything, so who cares?)
I'd just like to add to this that the principle that the ban list is a temporary holding area is a
very important part of its usefulness as a Design tool. If there's a risk that a card which goes on the ban list will
never come off, there will be
much stronger resistance to allowing any cards to go on in the first place. (Certainly from me.)
I feel like the Vulcan
deck needs exactly one more
to work really really well... and, lo, the
they need is sitting on the banlist, banned since 2018, and doesn't feel like it ought to be that hard of a fix if Balance knows the purpose of the card. That's a very tough feeling for me.
Of course, as mentioned elsewhere, zero ban list can't happen for OTF. The cards that became rules have to stay banned. Unless you want to errata them to something completely different, which then dramatically changes Open.
Like Rachmaninoff, I pretend that "cards with a
icon can't be played in this format" just means they all got seeded for free.
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