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 - Alpha Quadrant
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#565185
Don't Provoke lets you seed borg ship dilemma right before it and score 10 points.

So I guess that makes it playable again, at the risk of the Borg Ship dilemma being relocated to take out your own ships. Hunker down at the outpost if your opponent's going to be attempting space missions?

No risk if your opponent is playing in a different spaceline though. Seems like that's a free 10 points for [1E-DQ] decks, sadly. Also good against Borg opponents, since you can choose to not seed the Borg Ship dilemma in that case and still earn the points.
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 - Beta Quadrant
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#565239
Wow, I initially misread Don't Provoke...I thought it said the opponent can relocate, not the encountering player. That's good I suppose since the first combo that popped into mind would be Amoeba+Borg Ship+*new* Q. That would basically be an instakill on any ship, more or less.

I get why it's balanced now, bc I was initially like woooooohowdy.
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By Armus (Brian Sykes)
 - The Center of the Galaxy
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#565243
stressedoutatumc wrote: Wed Oct 27, 2021 1:05 pm Wow, I initially misread Don't Provoke...I thought it said the opponent can relocate, not the encountering player. That's good I suppose since the first combo that popped into mind would be Amoeba+Borg Ship+*new* Q. That would basically be an instakill on any ship, more or less.

I get why it's balanced now, bc I was initially like woooooohowdy.
Yeah I had that deck built in my head about 30 seconds after reading the card.

...Then I read it a second time and I was like "Oh. Wait."

But yeah, that would open the door for some stupid levels of brokenness so it's probably better that they worded the card as they did.... :twisted:
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#565293
Ensign Q wrote: Wed Oct 27, 2021 6:01 pm
stressedoutatumc wrote: Wed Oct 27, 2021 4:41 pm
Ensign Q wrote: Wed Oct 27, 2021 1:26 pm its not hard to kill a ship with a 3 dilemma set up
I would say it's not easy to guarantee a kill ship. This would have all but sealed it.
SPACE Amoeba
the swarm
silent enemy

More of Your Kind
Strict Dress Code
V'Ger
Not to rain on your parade, but definitely not anywhere near a guaranteed kill.
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By Ensign Q
 - Delta Quadrant
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1E The Neutral Zone Regional Champion 2021
#565295
stressedoutatumc wrote: Wed Oct 27, 2021 11:30 pm
Ensign Q wrote: Wed Oct 27, 2021 6:01 pm
stressedoutatumc wrote: Wed Oct 27, 2021 4:41 pm

I would say it's not easy to guarantee a kill ship. This would have all but sealed it.
SPACE Amoeba
the swarm
silent enemy

More of Your Kind
Strict Dress Code
V'Ger
Not to rain on your parade, but definitely not anywhere near a guaranteed kill.
what does stop it, that doesnt stop borg ship?
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#565297
Ensign Q wrote: Wed Oct 27, 2021 11:54 pm
stressedoutatumc wrote: Wed Oct 27, 2021 11:30 pm
Ensign Q wrote: Wed Oct 27, 2021 6:01 pm

SPACE Amoeba
the swarm
silent enemy

More of Your Kind
Strict Dress Code
V'Ger
Not to rain on your parade, but definitely not anywhere near a guaranteed kill.
what does stop it, that doesnt stop borg ship?
For the first one. Captain with a capt log, plasmadyne relay, ablative armor.

The second, a super crew would probably do it.

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