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By Armus (Brian Sykes)
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Tosk wrote: Tue Dec 14, 2021 2:45 pm I mean any animated series cards for 1E would rock, but everybody remembers M'Ress more than anything else from that show.
Speak for yourself. I remember Vulcan Time Traveling, Pink Tribbles, and Black Stars on White Sky, but that's probably because Yesteryear, The Counter-Clock Incident, and More Tribbles, More Troubles are my Three favorite TAS episodes...
 
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Rachmaninoff wrote: Tue Dec 14, 2021 1:01 pm
princedetenebres wrote: Tue Dec 14, 2021 9:11 am I would like to get a way to solve my most favorite mission ever, Reunion, with ONLY Klingon personnel and in so doing acquire the Genesis Device; have it given to me, you might say.
It is already possible but not easy; and in fact you can score Reunion for 40 with a single [Kli] personnel.

Play Spock (via TMW if need be), run him into Frame of Mind at another mission that you solve to earn The Book, naming [Kli] and Cantankerousness. Reflection Therapy does the rest.

(If you are really lucky, in inattentive opponent on autopilot might do half the work for you if they instinctively name Cantankerousness and Barbering on Frame of Mind.)
Ha, well done. I had forgotten about The Book -- a way that actually works instead of running afoul of the lack of an ANY in front of Spock.
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By VioletBlaze (Violet Edgar)
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My 1e Christmas wish is probably something I should keep to myself for now, but I would also love something to do with Infiltrators that is actually worth points (or at least denying your opponent them) and doesn't only work in Magical Christmas Land (1e-cal Christmas Land?)
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By nobthehobbit (Daniel Pareja)
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This thread managed to veer into long off-topic discussions twice already. Please let's keep it on topic.
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#568018
A DS9 Tal Shiar or Obsidian Order personnel with Archaeology and/or Astrophysics would be nice. I'd like to see more cards in general that care about Intelligence as a theme regardless of faction.

Please, 1E Santa, I am just a poor orphan boy, and I ask so little.
 
By Klauser
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Ensign Q wrote: Sat Dec 04, 2021 5:33 am
nobthehobbit wrote: Fri Dec 03, 2021 9:25 pm Alternate-image versions of Davar and Turanj that lack the Nazi imagery, because as it is those cards are, I think, literally illegal to possess as printed in certain countries.
the show was uncensored on television, so i doubt its illegal
Apologies - coming late to this conversation. When "The Borg" expansion was released in 2001, the two Hirogen cards (Daval and Turanj) with Nazi uniforms were first revealed the Decipher message boards lit up with the same concerns noted here. The European players were trying to explain that owning Nazi-related materials was indeed illegal in some European countries. As I recall, while being polite about it, the Decipher-ites were explaining that the expansion had already been printed, packaged and delivered so there was nothing they could do.

As a practical matter, I don't think that there are any scenes in "The Killing Game" Parts 1 and 2 that have Daval and Turanj NOT in Nazi uniforms, so this may be a moot point. The only creative option I can come up with would be having the screen grabs of the characters in fairly close-up angles and just darken out the SS and rank collar insignia.
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By Ensign Q
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for as long as theyre not banned, they are allowed. doubt anyone tries to file charge 20yrs later.
again, this was uncensored on television
 
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The Federation already has the best cards and even apart from the personnel there are a lot of Federation-only cards.
I´d like to see more [1E-Evt] [Obj] [1E-Int] [Inc] cards that work for all affiliations.
I´d like to have missions with outposts for every affiliation.
I´d like to have mission specialists for every affiliation.

Make Christmas great again for all affiliations :wink:
 
By Tosk
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Ensign Q wrote: Mon Dec 20, 2021 11:46 pm for as long as theyre not banned, they are allowed. doubt anyone tries to file charge 20yrs later.
again, this was uncensored on television
TBH I'd still like a Nazi uniform Kirk and Spock.

Because I'm more in line with Roddenberry's thinking in the 60's than modern political opinions on censorship.
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By Ensign Q
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Tosk wrote: Tue Dec 21, 2021 11:42 am
Ensign Q wrote: Mon Dec 20, 2021 11:46 pm for as long as theyre not banned, they are allowed. doubt anyone tries to file charge 20yrs later.
again, this was uncensored on television
TBH I'd still like a Nazi uniform Kirk and Spock.

Because I'm more in line with Roddenberry's thinking in the 60's than modern political opinions on censorship.
James Tiberius Kirk

to be fair. nazi symbolism has a long censorship tradition in germany. its not exactly "modern opinion".
but yeah, if you want moden trek, watch discovery or the kelvin movies
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By Armus (Brian Sykes)
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#568179
I remember when The Cage came out Charlie mentioned that some of the Designers asked to not include any cards from Patterns of Force because of the Nazi imagery.

From my recollection of the conversation, it's unlikely that any explicit nazi-imaged cards will be made. However, he left the door open for non-nazi-imaged cards from that episode to be made in the future - it was the Cage designers themselves that self-imposed that limitation.

@MidnightLich I know it's been a couple years, so please correct me if I'm misremembering anything on this.

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