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By MidnightLich (Charlie Plaine)
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#569037
I don't think there is an overall list, but if you go to the card page of a planet with "23rd century" in lore, it will show you the natives of that planet. Likewise, if you go to a native personnel's page, it will link you to the planet.

-crp
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By eberlems
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2E European Continental Quarter-Finalist 2023
2E  National Second Runner-Up 2023
#569040
This is the current list of personnel that mention 23rd century missions:
Daval Organia
Kered Organia
Lt. Grant Capella IV
Captain Koloth Sherman's Planet
Dr. Roger Korby Exo III
Ruk Exo III
Kras Capella IV
Nilz Baris Sherman's Planet
Commodore Stone M-11
Lt. Commander Giotto Janus VI
Lt. Jose Tyler Talos IV
Lt. Kevin Riley Tarsus IV
Lt. Palamas Pollux IV
Samuel T. Cogley M-11
Vanderberg Janus VI
Yeoman Colt Talos IV
Claudius Marcus Planet 892-IV
Leila Kalomi Omicron Ceti III
Mea 3 Eminiar VII
Miramanee Amerind
Tepo Sigma Iotia II
The Keeper Talos IV
Alice Series Planet Mudd
Andrea Exo III
Barbara Series Planet Mudd
Dr. Brown Exo III
Kirk-Android Exo III
Norman Planet Mudd
S'Salk Cestus III
Stella Mudd Planet Mudd
Sybo Argelius II
R'Moog Gamma Hydra IV
Veznik Gamma Hydra IV
Captain Kang (A Private Little War) Beta XII-A
Yarnek Excalbia
Captain Koloth Sherman's Planet
Excalbian Green Excalbia
Excalbian Lincoln Excalbia
Apella Planet Neural
Mok'Rand Sherman's Planet
Krell Apella
Khan Noonien Singh Ceti Alpha V
Trader Worf Sherman's Planet
Ambassador Petri Troyius
Radebe Organia
Thelev Impersonator Babel
Baroner Organia
Elaan Elas & Troyius
Kryton Elas
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By Professor Scott (Mathew McCalpin)
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1E Cardassia Regional Champion 2023
#569043
If it's not already, can we get that pinned into Handy Player-Created Resources
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By Professor Scott (Mathew McCalpin)
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1E Cardassia Regional Champion 2023
#569192
I would say no to both. He is mentioning a war between 2 locations; he is not mentioning the locations themselves. If the war would have been called the Terran-Reman war instead, we wouldn't even raise an eyebrow.
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By Armus (Brian Sykes)
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#569194
Professor Scott wrote: Sat Jan 08, 2022 4:02 pm I would say no to both. He is mentioning a war between 2 locations; he is not mentioning the locations themselves. If the war would have been called the Terran-Reman war instead, we wouldn't even raise an eyebrow.
Yeah but it's not called that.

He names Earth in lore. Earth is a planet.

I don't see why if you have Earth on the spaceline you couldn't download Stiles with Preserver Obelisk.
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By Professor Scott (Mathew McCalpin)
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1E Cardassia Regional Champion 2023
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JeBuS wrote: Sat Jan 08, 2022 4:34 pm I think this one works. Based on Kor names Kahless in lore via 'Sword of Kahless' and Zegov's lore names both Sisters of Duras and Duras. It appears that you are allowed to break out the sub-words of a compound noun.
I disagree... if 'Sword of Kahless' in lore is equal to Kahless in lore, then Lt Data in lore and Lt Commander Data in lore must also equal Data in Lore, which clearly is not true.
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By Ensign Q
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i just want to point out, that the lore references are a nightmare anyway.

it should work without understanding a single sentence.

if data in lore=true then the reference is true.

which brings me right to the point, how revised doctor is not an android
(while commander data is. although the card says he is not)

but its not that way.

either way obelisk is not checking for an interpretation, but just does that
earth= true: download
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By Armus (Brian Sykes)
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#569203
Professor Scott wrote: Sat Jan 08, 2022 4:57 pm
JeBuS wrote: Sat Jan 08, 2022 4:34 pm I think this one works. Based on Kor names Kahless in lore via 'Sword of Kahless' and Zegov's lore names both Sisters of Duras and Duras. It appears that you are allowed to break out the sub-words of a compound noun.
I disagree... if 'Sword of Kahless' in lore is equal to Kahless in lore, then Lt Data in lore and Lt Commander Data in lore must also equal Data in Lore, which clearly is not true.
Time to pull out the glossary apparently.
Named in Lore wrote: A personnel or ship card is named in the lore of another card if the lore refers to that personnel or ship by name. The named card's title must exactly match the full name given by the lore, including any capitalized modifiers such as ranks, titles, or descriptors. For example, I.K.C. K'elric names Captain Kang in lore, but does not name Kang in lore; Ezri names Mr. Brunt in lore, but not Brunt; Gorta's lore names Duras, but not Sisters of Duras.

A planet is named in the lore of another card if the lore refers to the location text of that planet mission (see mirror universe).

The capitalization of articles ("a", "the") may be disregarded. (Both Bareil and 0413-Theta name The Intendant in lore.) Standard word form variations, such as declined or possessive nouns, do not "break" a match. (Jadzia Dax is named in Els Renora's lore, despite the apostrophe + s after "Dax.")

Context matters for determining whether the lore is actually naming the subject. Incidental uses of a word, like "One" in Kovat's lore, do not count. For example, Telle mentions "data" in lore, but does not name Data; Kor's lore does name Kahless (who owns the "Sword of Kahless"); and Zegov's lore names both Sisters of Duras and Duras.
So I think the glossary refutes this particular argument.
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