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"Kor sought the Sword."
"Who's sword, The Sword of Worf?'
"No, the Sword of Kahless."
"Oh, now I know which sword. Do you seek Kahless too?"
"No, the clone Emperor is on Qo'noS. Why did you bring him up?"
"You did when you said Sword of Kahless!"
"No I didn't I merely specified who's sword I was seeking."
The fact that there is an actual card Sword of Kahless is immaterial, and does not strengthen my case at all; I pointed it out for clarity.
Armus wrote: ↑Sat Jan 08, 2022 5:08 pm@Armus, Clearly you are not wrong, however I WILL say that the glossary is wrong. Kor sought the Sword of Kahless which is an object not the person. I feel due to context, it's clear that Kor does not actually reference Kahless. The Kahless here is merely to differentiate between this sword and that sword.Professor Scott wrote: ↑Sat Jan 08, 2022 4:57 pmTime to pull out the glossary apparently.JeBuS wrote: ↑Sat Jan 08, 2022 4:34 pm I think this one works. Based on Kor names Kahless in lore via 'Sword of Kahless' and Zegov's lore names both Sisters of Duras and Duras. It appears that you are allowed to break out the sub-words of a compound noun.I disagree... if 'Sword of Kahless' in lore is equal to Kahless in lore, then Lt Data in lore and Lt Commander Data in lore must also equal Data in Lore, which clearly is not true.
Named in Lore wrote: A personnel or ship card is named in the lore of another card if the lore refers to that personnel or ship by name. The named card's title must exactly match the full name given by the lore, including any capitalized modifiers such as ranks, titles, or descriptors. For example, I.K.C. K'elric names Captain Kang in lore, but does not name Kang in lore; Ezri names Mr. Brunt in lore, but not Brunt; Gorta's lore names Duras, but not Sisters of Duras.So I think the glossary refutes this particular argument.
A planet is named in the lore of another card if the lore refers to the location text of that planet mission (see mirror universe).
The capitalization of articles ("a", "the") may be disregarded. (Both Bareil and 0413-Theta name The Intendant in lore.) Standard word form variations, such as declined or possessive nouns, do not "break" a match. (Jadzia Dax is named in Els Renora's lore, despite the apostrophe + s after "Dax.")
Context matters for determining whether the lore is actually naming the subject. Incidental uses of a word, like "One" in Kovat's lore, do not count. For example, Telle mentions "data" in lore, but does not name Data; Kor's lore does name Kahless (who owns the "Sword of Kahless"); and Zegov's lore names both Sisters of Duras and Duras.
"Kor sought the Sword."
"Who's sword, The Sword of Worf?'
"No, the Sword of Kahless."
"Oh, now I know which sword. Do you seek Kahless too?"
"No, the clone Emperor is on Qo'noS. Why did you bring him up?"
"You did when you said Sword of Kahless!"
"No I didn't I merely specified who's sword I was seeking."
The fact that there is an actual card Sword of Kahless is immaterial, and does not strengthen my case at all; I pointed it out for clarity.