AllenGould wrote: ↑Tue Jul 19, 2022 5:14 pm
I was going to be pretty firm on the "playing external cards isn't an action the ship does"... but the Required Actions section calls out Cytherians specifically in the example that you can use things like Wormholes to get closer, but *not* to move further away.
So, it does seem like current state says if you're not allowed to cloak, you can't use a 3rd party action to do it for you.
I appreciate the response, but here's why I disagree. I think there has to be a difference whether I am performing the action voluntarily or by a 3rd party card. For example:
By the reasoning above, if I have a ship that starts my turn cloaked, then I uncloak the ship during my turn, and then used Cloaked Maneuvers during my turn to re-cloak the ship, then there's nothing that can force me to uncloak during my turn. Not even
Tachyon Detection Grid because the rules state that I can cloak or decloak only once per turn. And, as stated above, you can't play a card that makes my ship do something it cannot.
But that's just one example. I would argue there are more like STP. Unless I'm not understanding how BCSWB is using it, how can he use a STP to return a ship that "can do nothing but"? If STP can return a ship that "can do nothing but" how does CM not also override the required action of Cytherians? Both are 3rd party cards that also provide a non-optional action. I would also point out the CM card also sets this precedence since it specifically and on purpose breaks the cloaking rule.
I'm not trying to me argumentative or anything, but I would appreciate this usage being considered. Thanks!