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By Professor Scott (Mathew McCalpin)
 - Delta Quadrant
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#581490
The resultof using Cloaked Maneuvers would be a cloaked ship that is still under Cytherians mandate.

STP on the other hand returns the ship to your hand, Cytherians is discarded and thereby eliminating the mandate.

Put another way, unless the card generates an action that advances the ship towards the destination (Lakanta, Where No One Has Gone Before, Transwarp Conduit, etc.), overrides the mandate (Q of Borg), or otherwise eliminates the mandate (Space-Time Portal), then you can't so it.
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By stressedoutatumc (stressedoutatumc)
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#581686
Professor Scott wrote: Thu Jul 21, 2022 1:49 pm The resultof using Cloaked Maneuvers would be a cloaked ship that is still under Cytherians mandate.

STP on the other hand returns the ship to your hand, Cytherians is discarded and thereby eliminating the mandate.

Put another way, unless the card generates an action that advances the ship towards the destination (Lakanta, Where No One Has Gone Before, Transwarp Conduit, etc.), overrides the mandate (Q of Borg), or otherwise eliminates the mandate (Space-Time Portal), then you can't so it.
But, again, there’s precedence that eliminates the Cytherians mandate. Q of Borg, for example. Why can’t CM also do the same?
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By Professor Scott (Mathew McCalpin)
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#581700
stressedoutatumc wrote: Sun Jul 24, 2022 8:37 am
Professor Scott wrote: Thu Jul 21, 2022 1:49 pm The resultof using Cloaked Maneuvers would be a cloaked ship that is still under Cytherians mandate.

STP on the other hand returns the ship to your hand, Cytherians is discarded and thereby eliminating the mandate.

Put another way, unless the card generates an action that advances the ship towards the destination (Lakanta, Where No One Has Gone Before, Transwarp Conduit, etc.), overrides the mandate (Q of Borg), or otherwise eliminates the mandate (Space-Time Portal), then you can't so it.
But, again, there’s precedence that eliminates the Cytherians mandate. Q of Borg, for example. Why can’t CM also do the same?
Because Q of Borg says so and Cloaked Maneuvers doesn't!!!
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