DISCO Rox No More wrote: ↑Fri Aug 12, 2022 5:36 pm
Here's my alternative non-religious view - we already have the quotes established from the dilemma (so consistency is a bonus), it's clear that the big glowy head ain't an actual god (of any religion, much less the human ones), so frankly - why do something that's going to at least annoy and probably offend a chunk of people for no good reason?
Uh, what? "No good reason?"
How about "consistency with previous precedent and convention?" Is that not a "good reason?"
I've already pointed out "
U.S.S. Voyager" as being the most relevant example here. Contrary to what you've stated, Sybok very much does see the Enterprise as a Chariot of his God, not a Chariot of a phony quote "God". I've also pointed out how dilemmas are written from the objective, rather than subjective, point-of-view, so I'm not sure why you're quoting the "God" dilemma as an example of consistency, when I've already pointed out its lack of relevance. Perhaps one should also point to "What Does God Need With A Starship?" (Note that it is not "What Does "God" Need With A Starship?" Are a "chunk of people" getting in a tizzy about that card?).
Or how about authenticity and fidelity to the lore of the Trek universe? Also not a "good reason?" Going to broader, secondary sources, I'd also point out that Memory Alpha's article on the subject doesn't put quotes around God...Memory Alpha being considered the definitive source on Trek lore, and frequently cited within discussions on these boards. (See entries on "Galactic Army of Light" and "God").
Meanwhile, I could also turn it around on you and say perhaps a "chunk of people shouldn't get annoyed or offended for no good reason?"
It boggles the mind that we're talking about playing within a universe whose creator (and whose foundational tenets for the setting) are clearly humanistic, atheistic, and anti-superstitious in nature, and yet you're going out of your way to worry about the superstitions that some people have about their magic sky man getting mad at them for writing the name God in reference to a fictional character's belief about his own God on a card game card. Roddenberry would be turning in his grave, if you'll excuse the expression.
(I noticed that Commander Uhura, from the same batch of cards, is represented with an image clearly presenting her face and hair and not wearing a hijab and correctly showing modesty for God. I guess some superstitions are worth observing, and not others?)
pfti wrote: ↑Mon Aug 15, 2022 9:21 am
This is not about trek logic, it is about being good to other people in real life
You mean it's about disregarding
Trek logic, for the sake of foisting some people's religious requirements upon all of us?
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