commdecker wrote: ↑Sun Aug 15, 2021 5:02 pm
Okay, but answer me this. This facility is a station, and stations have no innate reporting ability. This one's reporting ability comes completely from its gametext, which says that Son'a cards can report "here". But if cloaked cards aren't "here", doesn't that mean that it can't report anything when it's cloaked?
My (unofficial)
, to which I welcome rebuttal:
In the cloaking rule, "here" means what "here" generally means: "at this location."
However, on a facility, including Son'a Observatory, "here" just means "present." The facility is not present with the location (according to the cloaking rules) but
is still present with cards reporting aboard. Son'a Observatory is using "here" in a different, narrower sense than the cloaking rules are when they say "here." And that allows the reporting text to still work even when the facility is cloaked.
And even if you convince yourself that you can justify reporting personnel within it when it's cloaked, surely you can't report ships to orbit?
Correct. No way this would work.
wait I just realized something. Does "here" on the son'a observatory mean that I can't actually report son'a ships there? Because they aren't present with the observatory, and "here" for a facility means at the facility itself, not just at the location.
Remember a couple weeks ago, when
I mentioned that the Rules Committee is trying to figure out a "cluster of closely related issues" that touch on "Staging Ground, Son'a Observatory, Station docking rules, targeting, and presence in space"?
Congratulations, you just found the tendril of this problem that impacts Son'a Observatory. Certain cards seem to
assume that planet facilities are present with orbiting ships -- certainly everyone who has ever played Son'a Observatory has assumed that -- but the rules don't actually
say so. (They also don't say they
aren't, so there's that.)
So hold your horses, we're hoping to sort this piece of it out in the September update. Fingers crossed.
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