By Praetor
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#547340
How did this work when it first came out? When you rearranged the space line what did you do with the opponents ship that triggered it?
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By Armus (Brian Sykes)
 - The Center of the Galaxy
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#547346
Praetor wrote: Sun Mar 21, 2021 5:43 pm How did this work when it first came out? When you rearranged the space line what did you do with the opponents ship that triggered it?
Failing Q resulted in the attempting crew/away team being stopped.

Aside from self-seeding for "Q-Bypass" the other main use of OG Q was to pair it with The Sheliak, rearrange the mission to be next to the Sheliak's location and nuke the stopped away team at the end of the turn (and zero out the mission to boot).

Done correctly, it could be a game- ender. Especially if your opponent makes the mistake of seeding their Outpost at a planet.
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By Takket
 - Delta Quadrant
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#547354
Praetor wrote: Sun Mar 21, 2021 5:43 pm How did this work when it first came out? When you rearranged the space line what did you do with the opponents ship that triggered it?
when you rearranged the spaceline, everything at each location went with it. so ships, facilities, away teams, etc all went with whatever mission they were at.
 
By Praetor
 - Alpha Quadrant
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#547366
Takket wrote: Sun Mar 21, 2021 7:07 pm
Praetor wrote: Sun Mar 21, 2021 5:43 pm How did this work when it first came out? When you rearranged the space line what did you do with the opponents ship that triggered it?
when you rearranged the spaceline, everything at each location went with it. so ships, facilities, away teams, etc all went with whatever mission they were at.
Thanks, this is most helpful.
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By BCSWowbagger (James Heaney)
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#547374
Here's the pre-errata Glossary entry:
Q – Revised text:
Unless 2 Leadership and INTEGRITY>60, Q
allows opponent to rearrange spaceline
locations. Otherwise, discard all dilemmas
seeded under here. Discard dilemma.

You may rearrange only the spaceline where
this dilemma was encountered. Move each
location card and all cards there (including
ships and facilities) as a single unit. You may
relocate a Q-Net between any two adjacent
spaceline locations. Regions of space may
be rearranged, breaking up the region.

Overcoming this dilemma allows you to
discard only Dilemma cards seeded under the
mission, not cards seeded like a dilemma (e.g.,
Q-Flash) or Q-icon dilemmas encountered
during a Q-Flash.

Nullifying or discarding the Q dilemma (e.g.,
with Q2 or Mortal Q) does not overcome the
dilemma or allow you to discard the other
dilemmas seeded there.
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By jadziadax8 (Maggie Geppert)
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#547407
Armus wrote: Sun Mar 21, 2021 6:04 pm
Praetor wrote: Sun Mar 21, 2021 5:43 pm How did this work when it first came out? When you rearranged the space line what did you do with the opponents ship that triggered it?
Failing Q resulted in the attempting crew/away team being stopped.

Aside from self-seeding for "Q-Bypass" the other main use of OG Q was to pair it with The Sheliak, rearrange the mission to be next to the Sheliak's location and nuke the stopped away team at the end of the turn (and zero out the mission to boot).

Done correctly, it could be a game- ender. Especially if your opponent makes the mistake of seeding their Outpost at a planet.
I don’t miss those days, even though I used Sheliak/Chandra/Q in every deck I built.
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jadziadax8 wrote: Mon Mar 22, 2021 7:32 am I don’t miss those days, even though I used Sheliak/Chandra/Q in every deck I built.
:thumbsup:

Q is nostalgia in the "yeah, remember the war?" way. It was A Thing; doesn't mean it was A Good Thing.
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By pfti (Jon Carter)
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2E Cardassia Regional Champion 2023
#547414
AllenGould wrote: Mon Mar 22, 2021 9:55 am
jadziadax8 wrote: Mon Mar 22, 2021 7:32 am I don’t miss those days, even though I used Sheliak/Chandra/Q in every deck I built.
:thumbsup:

Q is nostalgia in the "yeah, remember the war?" way. It was A Thing; doesn't mean it was A Good Thing.
This is how my first ever tournament game ended 0 to -10. Sheliaks killed everything. My opponent hit a lack of prep. I mirror imaged kivas's to deck us
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By Professor Scott (Mathew McCalpin)
 - Delta Quadrant
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Trailblazer
1E Cardassia Regional Champion 2023
#547427
pfti wrote: Mon Mar 22, 2021 10:15 am
AllenGould wrote: Mon Mar 22, 2021 9:55 am
jadziadax8 wrote: Mon Mar 22, 2021 7:32 am I don’t miss those days, even though I used Sheliak/Chandra/Q in every deck I built.
:thumbsup:

Q is nostalgia in the "yeah, remember the war?" way. It was A Thing; doesn't mean it was A Good Thing.
This is how my first ever tournament game ended 0 to -10. Sheliaks killed everything. My opponent hit a lack of prep. I mirror imaged kivas's to deck us
Pretty heads up play for your first tourney game, Jon. Nice one!
 
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#547532
AllenGould wrote: Mon Mar 22, 2021 9:55 am
jadziadax8 wrote: Mon Mar 22, 2021 7:32 am I don’t miss those days, even though I used Sheliak/Chandra/Q in every deck I built.
:thumbsup:

Q is nostalgia in the "yeah, remember the war?" way. It was A Thing; doesn't mean it was A Good Thing.

That's true!

Still I like those "Kill them all" dilemma combos ... very much like:

<< kill the Cardassians>>

<<witch ones?>>

<< ALL OF THEM! >>


lol

[Dom] [Dom] [Dom]
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By pfti (Jon Carter)
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2E Cardassia Regional Champion 2023
#547533
Professor Scott wrote: Mon Mar 22, 2021 11:26 am
pfti wrote: Mon Mar 22, 2021 10:15 am
AllenGould wrote: Mon Mar 22, 2021 9:55 am
:thumbsup:

Q is nostalgia in the "yeah, remember the war?" way. It was A Thing; doesn't mean it was A Good Thing.
This is how my first ever tournament game ended 0 to -10. Sheliaks killed everything. My opponent hit a lack of prep. I mirror imaged kivas's to deck us
Pretty heads up play for your first tourney game, Jon. Nice one!
There wernt a lot of other options. We both were out of outposts and I hadn't learned that you could devidian door androids into space to build a new one.
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