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Are Remastered set icons considered the same as the original set icon for gameplay?

Posted: Mon Jun 27, 2022 12:03 pm
by boromirofborg
Occasionally, cards have used set icons as gameplay. So far, none have involved a remaster set that I am aware of. However, if one ever did:

Should we consider the icon of TMP and TMPR (and OTSD <> OTSDR) the same icon, just recolored?

Re: Are Remastered set icons considered the same as the original set icon for gameplay?

Posted: Mon Jun 27, 2022 12:24 pm
by MidnightLich
I would say no, they are not.

-crp

Re: Are Remastered set icons considered the same as the original set icon for gameplay?

Posted: Mon Jun 27, 2022 12:30 pm
by eberlems
Ops has a second icon, so no.

Re: Are Remastered set icons considered the same as the original set icon for gameplay?

Posted: Mon Jun 27, 2022 4:39 pm
by boromirofborg
Ops was a little different,, as it wasn't a complete "reprint", card for card, of a set.

So as of right now, if there was ever a card that targeted TMP Captain Spock, then there would be a need to errata the original TMP icon on to the TMP remastered.

OR, the TMP set icon is now off-limits for design space.

OR, there's a difference in gameplay if I print out a TMP Captain Spock and sleeve it, instead of choosing the higher print quality TMPR Captain Spock.

I think this is currently meaningless, and hypothetical, but I hope the design team (and rules) keep it in mind.

When it was occasional, targeted reprints, that was one thing. But when we remaster entire sets (which was a great thing), I personally believe there is no great reason to not just say that the TMPR icon == TMP icon.

Re: Are Remastered set icons considered the same as the original set icon for gameplay?

Posted: Tue Jun 28, 2022 11:55 am
by AllenGould
boromirofborg wrote: Mon Jun 27, 2022 4:39 pm I think this is currently meaningless, and hypothetical, but I hope the design team (and rules) keep it in mind.
I would hope we keep in mind the hoops that had to be jumped through last time, and just remember to keep set icons off-limits for gameplay. ;)

Re: Are Remastered set icons considered the same as the original set icon for gameplay?

Posted: Tue Jun 28, 2022 1:13 pm
by eberlems
Ops isn't the perfect example, there are Image[eDS9], Image[eHA], Image[Fajo] and Image[FC] already in use on cards.
I don't recall anything using icons of TMP or TMPR.