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By Dukat (Andreas Rheinländer)
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#581311
Hi guys,

some questions about the light bulbs ...

- When a deactivated hologram is aboard a ship, is that ship considered empty?
- Can a hologram on a ship with no holodeck put off a Mobile Holo-Emitter, so that it deactivates (leaving the equipment behind)?
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#581316
Dukat wrote: Tue Jul 19, 2022 10:45 am - When a deactivated hologram is aboard a ship, is that ship considered empty?
- Can a hologram on a ship with no holodeck put off a Mobile Holo-Emitter, so that it deactivates (leaving the equipment behind)?
- Definition of "empty" is "has no personnel or Rogue Borg aboard." No conditional on the status of the personnel, so a deactivated hologram is still enough to make it un-empty.
- As long as the holo would deactivate and not erase, I believe this works. (The restriction is that similar to house arrest, you can't just suicide a hologram by moving them somewhere they can't be.)
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By Dukat (Andreas Rheinländer)
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#581323
Enabran wrote: Tue Jul 19, 2022 1:47 pm
You may not voluntarily remove a Mobile Holo-Emitter from a personnel if this would cause them to stop existing.
The personnel does not stop to exist, it just deactivates, right?
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By Professor Scott (Mathew McCalpin)
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Dukat wrote: Tue Jul 19, 2022 1:54 pm
Enabran wrote: Tue Jul 19, 2022 1:47 pm
You may not voluntarily remove a Mobile Holo-Emitter from a personnel if this would cause them to stop existing.
The personnel does not stop to exist, it just deactivates, right?
[Holo] can only exist where there is something projecting them; Holodeck, Holo-Projectors, Mobile Holo-Emitter. If there is no Holodeck present, you may voluntarily remove a Mobile Holo-Emitter if on a ship or a facility only. Also, if that Mobile Holo-Emitter were to somehow be discarded, then in the absence of some other projector, that [Holo] is discarded not deactivated.

From the Glossary:
HOLOGRAPHIC [Holo] PERSONNEL AND EQUIPMENT

ACTIVATION AND DEACTIVATION
Holographic [Holo] cards must always exist in one of two states: activated or deactivated (conceptually stored in memory). They may exist activated if present with a holodeck (on cards like U.S.S. Galaxy), but they may exist deactivated aboard any ship or facility. They may not exist anywhere else.

Holograms may not report or voluntarily move any place where they cannot exist. Whenever a hologram would be moved somewhere it cannot exist, it deactivates instead. If holograms are somewhere where they cannot exist, they are immediately erased (discarded). (This can happen if, for example, holograms are present with Holo-Projectors when it is nullified.)

While deactivated, [Holo] personnel are disabled, and equipment may not be used in any way. If an activated hologram is deactivated, it may not be reactivated during the same turn.

A [Holo] hologram may report activated, if possible. Otherwise, a hologram reports deactivated; it may be activated (even on the same turn) by any of your unstopped personnel present (even an activated hologram).
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By Professor Scott (Mathew McCalpin)
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#581329
Enabran wrote: Tue Jul 19, 2022 3:38 pm Since they can exist on a ship without a Holodeck, they should be allowed to leave the mobile Holoemitter.
Yes, on a ship or a facility, the MHE can be voluntarily removed when there is no Holodeck; which deactivates the [Holo]. This cannot be done on a planet without a Holo-Projector.
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