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I do not understand how dilemmas from Dyson sphere Door get into play. I looked in the glossary. Help, please.
sekce31 wrote: ↑Mon Nov 06, 2023 9:47 am Can I put Q dilemma into Dyson Sphere Door side deck, to be downloaded by Q?Are you asking if you can put a DILEMMA in your Dyson Sphere Door? I don't think so, because of the Q-Icon Cards Glossary entry.
Cards identified by the special icon, representing actions of Q or one of the other Q entities, come into play only through a special Q-Continuum side deck, unless a card's text allows them to be used in another way (e.g., Q's Planet, Hide and Seek, Beware of Q). (If so, you do not need a Q-Continuum side deck, or any seeded Q-Flash doorways, to use these cards.)Now, I'm certain that interrupts or events can't be stocked in the Dyson Sphere. I think that dilemmas are probably also banned, but not 100% sure on that one.
Kaiser wrote:Logic does not really factor into it; only game rules matter. Happily, the two often coincide.
BCSWowbagger wrote:This is a post for people who get excited about interoffice memos!What Should I Play Next in 2E?
sekce31 wrote: ↑Mon Nov 06, 2023 9:47 am Can I put Q dilemma into Dyson Sphere Door side deck, to be downloaded by Q?I don't see why not. Q-dilemmas are dilemmas. Dyson Sphere Door holds dilemmas.
patrick wrote: ↑Mon Nov 06, 2023 3:47 pmActually, I think the scenario here doesn't work because of the text of Q.sekce31 wrote: ↑Mon Nov 06, 2023 9:47 am Can I put Q dilemma into Dyson Sphere Door side deck, to be downloaded by Q?I don't see why not. Q-dilemmas are dilemmas. Dyson Sphere Door holds dilemmas.
If you have a deck with both Dyson Sphere Door and Q-Flash, and you want to use Q to download Q-dilemmas, I think you will have to put them under the Dyson Sphere Door because of the line that says "Dilemmas you download must come from here"...
Q dilemma wrote:Unless 2 Leadership and INTEGRITY>60, opponent may download up to 2 cards and place them atop their Q-Continuum side deck; crew or Away Team has a Q-Flash of 4 cards, then is stopped. Discard dilemma.If you don't have a Q-Continuum side deck, you cannot perform the action of placing the cards atop that side deck. Since you cannot perform that action, you can't do any of the other actions.
Kaiser wrote:Logic does not really factor into it; only game rules matter. Happily, the two often coincide.
BCSWowbagger wrote:This is a post for people who get excited about interoffice memos!What Should I Play Next in 2E?
patrick wrote: ↑Mon Nov 06, 2023 3:47 pm*Edit: James has it covered bettersekce31 wrote: ↑Mon Nov 06, 2023 9:47 am Can I put Q dilemma into Dyson Sphere Door side deck, to be downloaded by Q?I don't see why not. Q-dilemmas are dilemmas. Dyson Sphere Door holds dilemmas.
If you have a deck with both Dyson Sphere Door and Q-Flash, and you want to use Q to download Q-dilemmas, I think you will have to put them under the Dyson Sphere Door because of the line that says "Dilemmas you download must come from here"...
Rule 2.15 wrote: Q-icon cards are side deck cards — they may be stocked only through a Q-Continuum side deck, which requires a Q-Flash, and are drawn out through other cards, like Q: Enter the Supernova. Q's meddling creates all kinds of cosmic chaos... for both players!Is that adequate to answer the question?
icon cards have a normal card type, such as Event or Dilemma. For example, a Event is still an Event, and may be nullified by Kevin Uxbridge.
jadziadax8 wrote: ↑Mon Nov 06, 2023 4:29 pmIn my scenario you would have both.patrick wrote: ↑Mon Nov 06, 2023 3:47 pmActually, I think the scenario here doesn't work because of the text of Q.sekce31 wrote: ↑Mon Nov 06, 2023 9:47 am Can I put Q dilemma into Dyson Sphere Door side deck, to be downloaded by Q?I don't see why not. Q-dilemmas are dilemmas. Dyson Sphere Door holds dilemmas.
If you have a deck with both Dyson Sphere Door and Q-Flash, and you want to use Q to download Q-dilemmas, I think you will have to put them under the Dyson Sphere Door because of the line that says "Dilemmas you download must come from here"...
Q dilemma wrote:Unless 2 Leadership and INTEGRITY>60, opponent may download up to 2 cards and place them atop their Q-Continuum side deck; crew or Away Team has a Q-Flash of 4 cards, then is stopped. Discard dilemma.If you don't have a Q-Continuum side deck, you cannot perform the action of placing the cards atop that side deck. Since you cannot perform that action, you can't do any of the other actions.p
BCSWowbagger wrote: cards are side deck cards — they may be stocked only through a Q-Continuum side deckBut looks like having both in the deck would not work with Q. They can't be under the Dyson Sphere Door, and they can't be downloaded from anywhere other than the Dyson Sphere Door.
Unless 2 Leadership and INTEGRITY>60, opponent may download up to 2 cards and place them atop their Q-Continuum side deck; crew or Away Team has a Q-Flash of 4 cards, then is stopped. Discard dilemma.Do I download them from the same deck I am placing them atop of? If I cannot download them from Dyson Sphere and cannot place them anywhere else but Q-continuum side deck, as you propose, this seems to be only option. Is it meant like that?
Side question: What happens to Dilemmas seeded with Beware of Q when they are resolved? The side deck (assuming the side deck is in play), or out of game (or discard pile, I guess, when playing Traditional)?If Q-Flash is opening the side deck, its text controls for all cards, even ones that didn't come from it:
When cards leave play, place them face up here only (even if closed); when side deck empty, shuffle to replenish it.("leave play" is a term of art that includes discarding dilemmas that never technically entered play.)
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