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Does Recover Stolen Material allow to be seeded and earned at locations? I assume yes, otherwise this card is worthless at Amargosa with the observatory.
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JeBuS wrote: ↑Tue Apr 18, 2023 12:19 pmThere is no "one artifact per mission rule"; technically, you can seed as many artifacts at a mission as you want!Takket wrote: ↑Tue Apr 18, 2023 12:04 pm Does this card also override the one artifact per mission rule?I'd say yes.
I.e. I seed an during the dilemma phase. Then during “everything else” phase I sees RSM and another under the same mission.
JeBuS wrote: ↑Tue Apr 18, 2023 12:19 pmReally? Based on what?Takket wrote: ↑Tue Apr 18, 2023 12:04 pm Does this card also override the one artifact per mission rule?I'd say yes.
I.e. I seed an during the dilemma phase. Then during “everything else” phase I sees RSM and another under the same mission.
If you seed more than one artifact at a single Mission, all your artifacts there are mis-seeds.
Some cards, like Cryosatellite, Orb Negotiations, and The Nexus, provide specific exceptions to these rules. All other cards seeded beneath missions are mis-seeds and will be removed from the game when revealed.... but I don't see where Recover gives you permission to break the (de facto) one per mission rule.
JeBuS wrote: ↑Tue Apr 18, 2023 12:45 pm The fun thing though, is that your Recover artifact isn't a mis-seed until the other artifact is revealed. So you can HQ: Return earn the first one while the other one remains seeded.Fair point, it's just like playing a non- and calling it one. You don't loose the game until it's revealed as a non- , so if that doesn't happen you are safe.
If you then reveal the other artifact, both will removed from the game and lock you out of the mission.
I don't know why you'd do that, but you can.
Professor Scott wrote: ↑Tue Apr 18, 2023 12:48 pmTechnically... at the end of every game, both players are required to show their cards to avoid that sort of shenanigans (at least it was required at one point, no idea if it still is).JeBuS wrote: ↑Tue Apr 18, 2023 12:45 pm The fun thing though, is that your Recover artifact isn't a mis-seed until the other artifact is revealed. So you can HQ: Return earn the first one while the other one remains seeded.Fair point, it's just like playing a non- and calling it one. You don't loose the game until it's revealed as a non- , so if that doesn't happen you are safe.
If you then reveal the other artifact, both will removed from the game and lock you out of the mission.
I don't know why you'd do that, but you can.
Armus wrote: ↑Tue Apr 18, 2023 12:58 pmYou are not required to show misseeds since there is an in game mechanic for punishing themProfessor Scott wrote: ↑Tue Apr 18, 2023 12:48 pmTechnically... at the end of every game, both players are required to show their cards to avoid that sort of shenanigans (at least it was required at one point, no idea if it still is).JeBuS wrote: ↑Tue Apr 18, 2023 12:45 pm The fun thing though, is that your Recover artifact isn't a mis-seed until the other artifact is revealed. So you can HQ: Return earn the first one while the other one remains seeded.Fair point, it's just like playing a non- and calling it one. You don't loose the game until it's revealed as a non- , so if that doesn't happen you are safe.
If you then reveal the other artifact, both will removed from the game and lock you out of the mission.
I don't know why you'd do that, but you can.
Same thing with showing Devidian Door(s).
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JeBuS wrote: ↑Tue Apr 18, 2023 12:45 pm The fun thing though, is that your Recover artifact isn't a mis-seed until the other artifact is revealed. So you can HQ: Return earn the first one while the other one remains seeded.This is a heck of an angle shot, but kudos; I do think this works.
If you then reveal the other artifact, both will removed from the game and lock you out of the mission.
I don't know why you'd do that, but you can.
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