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Random Card Function for 1E Still Produces 2EBC Cards

Posted: Mon Apr 19, 2021 7:54 pm
by jadziadax8
The title pretty much says it all. I was playing around with the Random Card function of the 1E site and found that it still generates 2EBC cards. That should probably be modified.

Re: Random Card Function for 1E Still Produces 2EBC Cards

Posted: Mon Apr 19, 2021 7:58 pm
by JeBuS
jadziadax8 wrote: Mon Apr 19, 2021 7:54 pm The title pretty much says it all. I was playing around with the Random Card function of the 1E site and found that it still generates 2EBC cards. That should probably be modified.
I'm not sure it's wrong. They're still legal in some formats.

Re: Random Card Function for 1E Still Produces 2EBC Cards

Posted: Tue Apr 20, 2021 10:19 am
by AllenGould
JeBuS wrote: Mon Apr 19, 2021 7:58 pm
jadziadax8 wrote: Mon Apr 19, 2021 7:54 pm The title pretty much says it all. I was playing around with the Random Card function of the 1E site and found that it still generates 2EBC cards. That should probably be modified.
I'm not sure it's wrong. They're still legal in some formats.
Which formats?

Re: Random Card Function for 1E Still Produces 2EBC Cards

Posted: Tue Apr 20, 2021 10:20 am
by JeBuS
Can't they be used in Open?

Re: Random Card Function for 1E Still Produces 2EBC Cards

Posted: Tue Apr 20, 2021 10:33 am
by jadziadax8
JeBuS wrote: Tue Apr 20, 2021 10:20 am Can't they be used in Open?
No.

Re: Random Card Function for 1E Still Produces 2EBC Cards

Posted: Tue Apr 20, 2021 10:41 am
by pfti
My special Dave Bowling Format allows them. I think it is fine to keep them in the system even if they are not tournament legal. Otherwise Raise the States should also be removed

Re: Random Card Function for 1E Still Produces 2EBC Cards

Posted: Tue Apr 20, 2021 12:11 pm
by nobthehobbit
Well, there's a difference between Raise the Stakes and 2EBC cards, which is that Raise the Stakes was printed on a First Edition template and released in a First Edition set. 2EBC cards were not.

Re: Random Card Function for 1E Still Produces 2EBC Cards

Posted: Tue Apr 20, 2021 12:26 pm
by edgeofhearing
nobthehobbit wrote: Tue Apr 20, 2021 12:11 pm Well, there's a difference between Raise the Stakes and 2EBC cards, which is that Raise the Stakes was printed on a First Edition template and released in a First Edition set. 2EBC cards were not.
There's another difference: 2EBC cards have been legal in major First Edition events, and Raise the Stakes has never been legal at any major First Edition event, ever.

Re: Random Card Function for 1E Still Produces 2EBC Cards

Posted: Tue Apr 20, 2021 1:15 pm
by AllenGould
If the "show me a random 1E card" button shows cards from other games, can we add some Pokemon to the rotation as well? :P

Re: Random Card Function for 1E Still Produces 2EBC Cards

Posted: Tue Apr 20, 2021 1:20 pm
by pfti
AllenGould wrote: Tue Apr 20, 2021 1:15 pm If the "show me a random 1E card" button shows cards from other games, can we add some Pokemon to the rotation as well? :P

If they were ever playable in 1e sure. (your hyperbolic example doesnt work here)

You press a button that says show me a 1e card, it shows you a card that is/was legal in 1e. I fail to see the problem.

Re: Random Card Function for 1E Still Produces 2EBC Cards

Posted: Tue Apr 20, 2021 1:26 pm
by eberlems
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Re: Random Card Function for 1E Still Produces 2EBC Cards

Posted: Tue Apr 20, 2021 3:28 pm
by AllenGould
pfti wrote: Tue Apr 20, 2021 1:20 pm You press a button that says show me a 1e card, it shows you a card that is/was legal in 1e. I fail to see the problem.
"Hey, I'm a new player and the random card sent me to this cool Kira, but I can't find her in the card search."

Re: Random Card Function for 1E Still Produces 2EBC Cards

Posted: Tue Apr 20, 2021 3:31 pm
by JeBuS
AllenGould wrote: Tue Apr 20, 2021 3:28 pm
pfti wrote: Tue Apr 20, 2021 1:20 pm You press a button that says show me a 1e card, it shows you a card that is/was legal in 1e. I fail to see the problem.
"Hey, I'm a new player and the random card sent me to this cool Kira, but I can't find her in the card search."
Not a convincing argument

Re: Random Card Function for 1E Still Produces 2EBC Cards

Posted: Tue Apr 20, 2021 3:36 pm
by AllenGould
JeBuS wrote: Tue Apr 20, 2021 3:31 pm
AllenGould wrote: Tue Apr 20, 2021 3:28 pm
pfti wrote: Tue Apr 20, 2021 1:20 pm You press a button that says show me a 1e card, it shows you a card that is/was legal in 1e. I fail to see the problem.
"Hey, I'm a new player and the random card sent me to this cool Kira, but I can't find her in the card search."
Not a convincing argument
Touche.

(Still stupid.)

Re: Random Card Function for 1E Still Produces 2EBC Cards

Posted: Tue Apr 20, 2021 3:38 pm
by JeBuS
To summarize:
2EBC cards are listed on the 1E expansion lists page.
2EBC cards are searchable via the 1E card search.
2EBC cards appear when using the random 1E card feature.