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By Ensign Q
 - Delta Quadrant
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#493443
no user but nA:
card play: drone1
free play: drone2
download to chamber: drone3
Awaken2 (opp) unique? drone 4

spend cards: 1
draws: 2
net +1

user:
card play: drone1
freeplay user: drone2
freeplay chamber: drone3
freeplay aah or twbc: drone4

spend cards: 0
draws: 1
net +1


so pretty on par i guess. while no user gets you one more drone (if you draw into awakens)
user will get you one more "free" card that can be a drone or whatever else.

considering user can draw you cards for scouting and free objectives indeed the math might slowly shift towards user. unless you want to run subcommands or need specific drones.
Last edited by Ensign Q on Tue Jan 14, 2020 8:34 pm, edited 1 time in total.
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By Orbin (James Monsebroten)
 - Delta Quadrant
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#493448
Ensign Q wrote:no user but nA:
card play: drone1
free play: drone2
download to chamber: drone3
Awaken: drone 4
Awaken2 (opp) unique? drone 5

spend cards: 2
draws: 2
net 0

user:
card play: drone1
freeplay user: drone2
freeplay chamber: drone3
freeplay aah or twbc: drone4

spend cards: 0
draws: 1
net +1


so pretty on par i guess. while no user gets you one more drone (if you draw into awakens)
user will get you one more "free" card that can be a drone or whatever else.

considering user can draw you cards for scouting and free objectives indeed the math might slowly shift towards user. unless you want to run subcommands or need specific drones.
Just a note that General Quarters prevents two personnel download actions in a single turn so you can't do a download to the Chamber and via Awaken in the same turn (unless you are not playing under OTF rules and your opponent doesn't stock the card)

- James M
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By Ensign Q
 - Delta Quadrant
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#493451
right. that brings new arrivals instead of user even closer

ultimately the user gives you like +3 draws in an average game and free objectives, so like +5 cards and a seed slot
"only downside" cant run undetected beam-in
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By jadziadax8 (Maggie Geppert)
 - Executive Officer
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The Traveler
2E North American Continental Semi-Finalist 2023
ibbles  Trek Masters Tribbles Champion 2023
#493454
Every time I see this thread topic, my mind yells out “Theroy Jenkins!”

Otherwise, I have nothing useful to add here. :shifty:
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By Orbin (James Monsebroten)
 - Delta Quadrant
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#493455
Orbin wrote:
Ensign Q wrote:if only your math was right.

you forgot about the draw from new arrivals and you cant have user AND aah.
also besides red drones awaken lets you chose which drone you want. although that might be irrelevant for tng ones.
the net draw gets better for new arrivals with maturation chamber andi rate reliable card draw higher than free plays, since when you play 6 drones a turn its unlikely you do it each turn.

and if you add we are the borg to the mix, you probably want to run more than one to get one on the table, so you also want to dl red drones. no?
Card Play + Awaken = same number of drones as Card play of We Are The Borg. You're right that I didn't count the card draws from Attention All Hands, but as was pointed out above you can use both Attention All Hands and The Ultimate User together.

So, instead of guessing, would you be willing to share what you're thinking about seeding / playing and what your regular turn might look like?

- James M
I space out a bit on the reply here as Attention All Hands doesn't give you a card draw. Later tonight (or tomorrow) I'll try and post a detailed breakdown of card plays and draws for the two different versions.

- James M
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By Boffo97 (Dave Hines)
 - Gamma Quadrant
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#493456
jadziadax8 wrote:Every time I see this thread topic, my mind yells out “Theroy Jenkins!”

Otherwise, I have nothing useful to add here. :shifty:
At least you have chicken.
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By jadziadax8 (Maggie Geppert)
 - Executive Officer
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The Traveler
2E North American Continental Semi-Finalist 2023
ibbles  Trek Masters Tribbles Champion 2023
#493458
Boffo97 wrote:
jadziadax8 wrote:Every time I see this thread topic, my mind yells out “Theroy Jenkins!”

Otherwise, I have nothing useful to add here. :shifty:
At least you have chicken.
There is that. :lol:
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By Ensign Q
 - Delta Quadrant
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#493459
jadziadax8 wrote:Every time I see this thread topic, my mind yells out “Theroy Jenkins!”

Otherwise, I have nothing useful to add here. :shifty:

ftfy
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By jadziadax8 (Maggie Geppert)
 - Executive Officer
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The Traveler
2E North American Continental Semi-Finalist 2023
ibbles  Trek Masters Tribbles Champion 2023
#493461
Ensign Q wrote:
jadziadax8 wrote:Every time I see this thread topic, my mind yells out “Theroy Jenkins!”

Otherwise, I have nothing useful to add here. :shifty:

ftfy
Literally LOL!

I love this place.
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By Armus (Brian Sykes)
 - The Center of the Galaxy
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Community Contributor
#493462
This thread just got 10000% better.

:lol:
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By Boffo97 (Dave Hines)
 - Gamma Quadrant
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Retired Moderator
#493467
I thought it only got 32.3% better. Repeating, of course.
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By Ensign Q
 - Delta Quadrant
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#493557
so with Q being spoiled, Im pretty much set to DQ borg with Unicomplex- using Q to jump into alpha

that turns the episode a little upside down, but :shrug:

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