LORE wrote: ↑Fri Feb 05, 2021 1:40 pm
sexecutioner wrote: ↑Fri Feb 05, 2021 11:00 am
JAGER VS Q!!!!
The match of the year y'all!
I'd sell your grandma to see this.
And I volunteer to commentate
For what it is worth, Kevin and I had a text exchange about Battle Borg vs. TNG Borg a few weeks ago and we determined Battle Borg could lock TNG Borg out on turn 2. I personally don't see the point of show casing this match, knowing full well what Kevin will do in advance.
But, sure, go ahead and run it if y'all want to...
Ensign Q wrote: ↑Fri Feb 05, 2021 12:51 pm
you underestimate tng borg. if your bbd fizzles or tng starts the game, they will tent for ablative armor and start solving.
So, I think both of the above points are cogent. I speak from direct experience having played TNG Borg in (not a) Worlds and going against both Carter and Seppel playing Battle Borg Variants.
I lost to Carter 100-30 and beat Seppel 100-0.
My biggest mistakes: Not putting
Ablative Armor and
Transport Inhibitor in my Q's Tent. As such, I was vulnerable to both ship and personnel battle and had to try to play around it. Deckbuilding lesson learned.
As for the games themselves, it was an exercise in contrasts.
Against Carter, he came in gunning for my ship. His Queen's Cube vs. my J-25 Cube was a mismatch. Despite drawing into Maximum Firepower, he didn't do the same so I was unable to hit him and go damaged. On my turn I beamed down people to the planet and started scouting. I cleared the mission but stayed on the planet. On his turn he finished off my cube and I brought in Locutus's Cube. I played some more guys, beamed up, got my 30 points, and tried to run away, but Carter was able to keep up. On his next turn he flew over and we battled each other, both played Maximum Firepower, and took each other out. The problem was I was out of Cubes while he was able to bring in his Locutus's Cube and have the spaceline to himself. The rest of the game was academic.
Against Seppel, it was a whole different setup... he wanted my people. In an effort to not get slaughtered, I very intentionally didn't play any of my counterparts, which limited him to only Assimilate Species. My goal was to just keep plowing through missions no matter what. Seppel took about 2 crews worth of people as I worked my way though my 2 planets, and snaked my last Q of Borg before I went to space, but I chose wisely on my space mission and avoided Cytherians, and between Skill gain, skill sharing, and adapts, I was able to get my last 5 unstopped borgs through his last dilemma at my space mission for the win. I think he made a couple of mistakes along the way, which gave me some precious time to get through missions, and had I not gotten a couple breaks, things may have turned out very differently. One thing that I wasn't was any kind of threat to him, so regardless of the specifics, the fact was I was the hunted the whole game and not the hunter - I just happened to run quick enough to get away with this one.
Conclusion: I think Battle Borg has the edge in this matchup, but a well-built TNG Borg build that is sufficiently prepared could (almost literally) make a run of it. As always, it comes down to preparation, player skill, and maybe a little bit of luck.