[CorellianSecurity]

If you're out of the loop, Magic: The Gathering now does the occasional cross-IP set. They've covered Lord of the Rings, Warhammer 40K, Doctor Who, and other properties of similar girth. I quietly consider Star Trek a shoe-in for future inclusion.

The idea bubbled up in my head a couple days ago and it's been knocking around ever since. I'm a diehard Trekkie and the concept of adapting that IP to Magic's ruleset is far too compelling for my game-designer mind to let go of.



In MTG terms, all non-Eldritch characters fall somewhere on the above color wheel. In broad strokes, most Starfleet characters would be White/Blue; Klingons would be Red/Green; Cardassians would be a mix of Black, White, and Red/Blue; Borg would be White/Green, with some Black and Blue in there too.

If there was a 300-400 card set meant to embody the pre-Kelvin Star Trek universe, what would you want to see in it? My apologies if the sense here is that this topic belongs on a MTG forum instead of this one. I get that, but here is where the card-playing Trek fanatics are, and that's the audience I'm keenest to hear from on this particular topic.

So as I slowly start to build my card list, throw some ideas at me! For those of you with MTG knowledge, I'd love to see some top-down card concepts; for those others with sense enough to stick to Decipher's games, what Trek character, event, ship, tech, etc. do you feel is "required" for inclusion in this cross-franchise set? What mechanics would feel flavorful if ported into Magic's rules?

[PantsOfTheTalShiar]

One way to start would be with the most well-known characters that are good representations of a single color.

Data or Spock for Blue. Data could also be an artifact.

Quark is Black like most Ferengi, because of their greed (and also their necromancy, lol).

Red would be Gowron or Martok, since I think Worf is more White than Red. (Or I guess early TNG Worf could be Red.)

Green is tough. Troi? Yar?

White would be Picard or Kirk.

[phaserihardlyknowher]

Green is tough. Troi? Yar?

Odo.

[pfti]

Green is tough. Troi? Yar?

Odo.

THe flotter holos. Because if those are not major characters, I don't know what is

[Jono]

You’re going too specific on colors by focusing on characters.

Think bigger picture.

When Magic released the Lord of the Rings set last year they focused more on color by character type. Nazgûl and orcs were often black or red centered. Ents were green. Rohan were red. Half lungs were green or white (and possibly had a second color). Elfs we’re green or blue.

So for Star Trek I see the following color:
Borg - black (with minor red & green)
Federation - blue (with minor white)
Klingon - red (with minor green)
Dominion - green
Ferengi - white/black
Romulan - blue/green
Cardassian - red/black
Bajoran - white

Obviously, a character like Benjamin Sisko could be blue/white.
And a version of Jean-Luc Picard after First Contact could be blue/black.

Because Star Trek has a lot of collectors any such Magic set would have Collector’s Boosters and probably themed Commander decks, focusing on a main character. So I could see:
Black/Red/Green Borg Queen
White/Blue James T. Kirk
Red/Green Worf
Blue/Black/White Jean Luc Picard (or Benjamin Sisko)

Just my

[Dukat]

For Christ's sake, I hope that never happens ...

Lord of the rings was shitty in Mtg. Just like Dr. Who. And Warhammer.

It simply does not fit ... those movies/topics are incompatible with Mtg.


The result was BS ...

[Jono]

For Christ's sake, I hope that never happens ...

Lord of the rings was shitty in Mtg. Just like Dr. Who. And Warhammer.

It simply does not fit ... those movies/topics are incompatible with Mtg.

The result was BS ...

I guess you won't like when Marvel characters appear in Magic next year. I for one have enjoyed the Lotr, DW and AC Universes Beyond releases. To each their own...

[Dukat]

I will most likely not like it, indeed.

I have been playing/handling Mtg cards since 1995 ...

So my perspective is that of an old guy talking war stories. Just with STCCG, I guess.


I mostly like the newer sets that go back to the roots, like Brother's War.

Also, I like the Phyrexia style stuff.
New Phyrexia was, in my eyes, one of the best sets ever.

[CorellianSecurity]

For whatever it's worth, I also balk at most of the UB stuff, and I hated the LotR set - it was deeply incongruent with my abiding adoration for Tolkien's works.

That being said, I don't have to "like" the UB concept to find it engaging to dream about how Star Trek might translate into that medium. That's an intellectual sandbox my brain loves to play in.

Progress on a cardlist is slow. I'm digging the concept of incorporating two cycles of starship Captains: as both Legendary Creatures, and also as Planeswalkers - the latter frames would highlight any reality-bending experiences the captains had. So, like, Tapestry-form Picard, orb-vision Sisko, Coda Janeway, etc. Spock and Q also are getting Planeswalker cards.

[TyKajada]

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Interesting thought speculations. If I have to settle our trek affiliations into e.g. Ravnica, I would assign the following:

obvious to me:
Bajoran: black/white (Orzhov)
Klingon: red/white (Boros)
Vidiian: black/green (Golgari)
Borg: blue/black (Dimir)
Feds: blue/white (Azorius)
Kazon: red/black (Rakdos)
Ferengi: red/blue (Izzet)

difficult to assign:
white/green (Selesnya)
blue/green (Simic)
red/green (Gruul)

regarding MtG, Wizards has gone completely insane. The crossover sets are the worst thing ever and made me stop playing and collecting. This in addition to the countless version of the same card in the same set (regular, foil, alt-art, layouts) was the nail in the coffin for me. F that sh.


Ravnica and Innistrad are still my favorite planes... so much potential, so little has been done..

[Dukat]

You can always rip some old packs from the 2000+ or 2010+ era.
Cool sets, only one type of foil and no mythics.

For a while, I did that on occasion.
Just buy them at a store you trust and not from some dudes online who sell loose packs that were most definitely either mapped or otherwise made sure they have no valuable content in them.