[Hoss-Drone]

I am just saying that every additional hurdle in the deck building process is a point of no return. The more steps in the process, the fewer decks will actually get made. A flat limit of number of copies is something I can accept since I had that in most of the game's, but it hampers some 1E cards which were intended to be played in multiples. Wormhole and Rogue Borg come to mind. If I can only have 3 Wormholes in the deck, I can't even count on using them once in a game unless I use kahn, STP, or wormhole missions.

But I admit that my Funness Value for games is How Many Played, not How Often Won.

The fact that you immediately gravitated to mentioning two cards that prove my point is interesting. Both have had to ref'd, nerfed and/or banned in the otf environment.

The point of what I'm proposing is to replace all the concern of bans an erratas with short lists that are basically: your recipe is one spicy spice, one medium spice and as much basic ingredients as you want. I've done this very thing with Star wars destiny. It's not that big a deal.

[winterflames]

I think you are missing my Choice Paralysis point. I conceded that limited copy count isn't that bad, but would shut down certain cards. Beating the dead horse and ignoring the mule running away.

The more hurdles you put into deck creation, the more you complicate the pregame. Right now someone can sit down and put all the federation cards from premier into a deck with 6 trancendence and a couple suprise, add continuing and finest and pick 28 dilemmas and they have a deck. Making them check 4 (2 or even just 1) checklists to see if the deck is legal is a complication. I like how the current deckbuilder tells you which cards make you deck not legal for which formats. If your idea includes a that it might be fine.

[Hoss-Drone]

I think you are missing my Choice Paralysis point. I conceded that limited copy count isn't that bad, but would shut down certain cards. Beating the dead horse and ignoring the mule running away.

The more hurdles you put into deck creation, the more you complicate the pregame. Right now someone can sit down and put all the federation cards from premier into a deck with 6 trancendence and a couple suprise, add continuing and finest and pick 28 dilemmas and they have a deck. Making them check 4 (2 or even just 1) checklists to see if the deck is legal is a complication. I like how the current deckbuilder tells you which cards make you deck not legal for which formats. If your idea includes a that it might be fine.

You're seriously going to argue that the massively complicated game that is 1e is somehow made ubearably complicated by a couple of short checklist columns?

Based on your example it seems that you are focusing on super casual 1e play. Which, wouldn't be impacted at all. It would be just as easy to whip such a simple deck together under my proposal. This is what's called a straw man argument. You set up an easy to defeat enemy "literally any additional work" then called it evil and beat it up.

Fact is that playing in otf already requires checking against the ban list, the glossary and the errata list before building your deck. This would be just another easy step.

[winterflames]

I expressed my opinion. It is your format. You do it how you like. I am just some random dude on the internet.

I do admit to not being a True Serious Traveling Tournament Player.

[Boffo97]

I advise against playing 1E seriously. That way lies madness.

Also, I don't want to engage with the Long Term Plan. I prefer to remain friends and not get caught up in romantic entanglements.

[Professor Scott]

I advise against playing 1E seriously. That way lies madness.

Also, I don't want to engage with the Long Term Plan. I prefer to remain friends and not get caught up in romantic entanglements.

"Me, the boy, the 2 droids and questions asked!"

"What is it, some kind of local trouble?"

"Let's just say we'd like to avoid any romantic entanglements."

[Hoss-Drone]

I advise against playing 1E seriously. That way lies madness.

Also, I don't want to engage with the Long Term Plan. I prefer to remain friends and not get caught up in romantic entanglements.

Then I guess I am fully mad.

[BCSWowbagger]

"Me, the boy, the 2 droids and questions asked!"

"What is it, some kind of local trouble?"

"Let's just say we'd like to avoid any romantic entanglements."

"Well, that's the trick, isn't it? And it's gonna cost you something extra. Two draws at the Cafe des Artistes. In advance."

"Two draws? We could almost buy our own seed slot for that!"

[Boffo97]

But who's going to design the deck, kid? You?

[Hoss-Drone]

Boy these guys must be in a lot valentine's day trouble. With what they're willing to pay we might finally be able to get out from under that dominatrix and still have some cards left over

[BCSWowbagger]

But who's going to design the deck, kid? You?

You bet I could! Y'know, I’m not such a bad deckbuilder myself! We don’t have to sit here and listen--

[edgeofhearing]

*backs away slowly in 2e*

[Armus]

But who's going to design the deck, kid? You?

You bet I could! Y'know, I’m not such a bad deckbuilder myself! We don’t have to sit here and listen--

@Hoss-Drone we can pay you 2 thousand (pennies) now... plus 15 (pennies) when we win Worlds...

[MidnightLich]

This was not what I expected to read when I saw this thread was lit up with new posts.

-crp

[winterflames]

But it keeps getting better!